PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 124.5 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 7.97, PFR: 6.37, 3Bet Preflop: 2.30, Hands: 254)
BB: 124.7 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 15.79, Hands: 35)
UTG: 75.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG+1: 149 BB (VPIP: 13.46, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
UTG+2: 237.8 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
MP: 169.3 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 116)
MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 304.8 BB (VPIP: 15.30, PFR: 10.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.01, Hands: 1,072)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) K 8 6
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 5.4 BB, UTG+2 raises to 10.8 BB, Hero raises to 29.9 BB, UTG+2 raises to 234.8 BB and is all-in, [b]Hero?

Gross spot, just flat his flop x raise and fold to his shove as played.

Dont fold just curse el diablo if you lose

You can fold if it's a dry flop like K72 rainbow. But K86 two suited? Stack your bottom set. His range for shoving is more than just KK and 88 there are many draws. There's also the possibility that he's a fish and will 4 bet shove AA/AK/86 on that flop.

Can't fold here

Villain is a nit and everything about his play is screaming strength. I'm definitely not folding on the flop though. We have position so call his min check-raise and see a turn.

lol@nit ring

he basically doesn't play any draws like this(maybe AQss), he doesn't have 9-10s, 9-7s.

his range is just AQss, 88, kk, AA, Ak & yes i do think he can overplay AA & AK here. Get it in and its not close.

I'm not even sure he has AQ in his range here.

Villain has to have you believe he does not cbet KK and 88 or AA or AK here? I don't quite believe it, feel this is a draw more than a hand that beats you. If he truly had those and did not cbet, amazing time to take a note.

I agree with Exo but I wouldn't be surprised if villain has zero draws that hit this flop in his opening range from UTG2. That being said, just because he is a nit preflop its likely that he still overplays AA and AK here which there are more combos of than sets.

I think that villain's range is slightly wider for getting it in otf because he is facing a donk bet which often induces nits to spew with the near top of their range.

^^^ Buddy i currently play something like 20/16 in fr zoom & let me tell you the diff between me and a 10/7, i actually steal hands from the co/btn/sb. My ranges and a 10/7 are prob close to the same in every other position, im not expecting him to not open AQ. These 10/7's generally steal 15-25% & dont resteal often hence their nitty stats.

Buddy

I am aware of these things. And with this awareness I still don't think he had AQ here

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 124.5 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 7.97, PFR: 6.37, 3Bet Preflop: 2.30, Hands: 254)
BB: 124.7 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 8.82, 3Bet Preflop: 15.79, Hands: 35)
UTG: 75.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG+1: 149 BB (VPIP: 13.46, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
UTG+2: 237.8 BB (VPIP: 10.71, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
MP: 169.3 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 116)
MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 304.8 BB (VPIP: 15.30, PFR: 10.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.01, Hands: 1,072)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) K 8 6
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 5.4 BB, UTG+2 raises to 10.8 BB, Hero raises to 29.9 BB, UTG+2 raises to 234.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 91.6 BB and is all-in

Turn: (250.5 BB, 2 players) 8

River: (250.5 BB, 2 players) 4

UTG+2 shows K K (Full House, Kings full of Eights) (Pre 80%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows 6 6 (Full House, Sixes full of Eights) (Pre 20%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
UTG+2 wins 239.2 BB

The problem in the hand it´s the check raise as a pfr. ( If he cbets i raise his cbet with this and draws and some bluffs , and get it in), with this stupid line, meh

As a std nit game:

He cbets AA, AK, KQ, low pairs without SV ( sometimes QQs JJs) and all draws like AQs, ETC.
He checks to call or fold: TTS - QQs, some weak pairs that wants to c\c once
He check \ raises monsters and on a blue moon just a mistake or air.

Never saw a nit doint this with like AAs or with a draw. Could happen but as a std it´s what i post here imo.

Going broke or not, in the long run it´s not a problem. He dont plays a draw like this, or AA, or AK, so... we, could, take advantage of this and folding sometimes i guess, as i do facing this lines.

Its just my opinion of my exp. facing this lines.

So, if we don´t wanna fold and wanna let in the villans range some overplayed hands or some spaz we can never, ever, raise his bet. Just call it.

He his very strong most of the time, we can get sometimes in showdown and dont get stakead against that range, when some ugly cards hit and he starts pot controling checking down, or, we could make quads.

Call his raise on the flop.


As played, I think it's a fold. I hate folding sets when theres no flush/straight possible, but he reps only sets and if a nit only reps sets he only has sets. But still tough to fold in game...

easy stack off omg

I`d generally be the last person to say to fold set on this flop, but as i said i really doubt he ever plays AK like this, 1 max combo draw in the nits range, and people just don`t X raise AA on this flop.

Pay him his money..

Whenever I see a really straightforward player, or a nit, take a weird line it's almost always for value.

All the guys who say stack off, what realistic hand of a nits range to we beat?

Board: 8K6
*******Equity*****Win*****Tie
MP2****49.59%**49.59%***0.00%*{ 6d6h }
MP3****50.41%**50.41%***0.00%*{ KK+, 88, Ts9s, 9s8s }

yeah wp 11/7 has 89s and T9s in his preflop range.

yes he have

also like how everybody automatically think he is NIT or exactly 11/7. I played some time ago, like 13/11 and sometimes i have on 50hand sample very very nit/rock stats...

obv that happens. But even like a 13/11 doesn't have 89s in his range here pre.