villain is standard 25/20/8 tag reg that I have no history with. BB is a big fish.
after J9 also gets there on the river is this an easy fold? is he ever bluffing hearts here?

Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $612.70
BB: $506.80
UTG: $478.10
MP: $403.50
Hero (CO): $906.50
BTN: $465.80

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is CO with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, SB calls $10, BB calls $8

Flop: ($36.00) T 5 Q (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $26, SB calls $26, BB folds

Turn: ($88.00) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $62, SB raises to $184, Hero calls $122

River: ($456.00) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $390.70 all in, Hero requests TIME....

Are you giving the results in the title? That alone is making me want to fold.

lol no. just stating that the turn completed the most obvious straight draw. and his raise is clearly repping it.

So then this is a fold?

yep that's what I'm asking.

he can definitely take this line with worse. i cant imagine ever folding

This one is kinda tricky.

It is really only 2 hands VILAN push river with for value we can beat, AQ and 55, og maybe the oddly played A8 of hearts.

Do you think VILAN flats with AQ pre here ever?? If VILAN is somewhat capable I would assume he 3 bets AQ close to 100% from sb, so that leavs us with 55. You have no history with VILAN, so we assume he does not have any clear picture of you. I have somewhat of a problem putting VILAN on 5's as he cant play it for sett mining from sb profitable v.s a late position raise, and alot of players will either 3 bet or fold 55 from sb due to this.

Please correct me if I'm way out here.

So how about KJ, would he flat this from sb, yes highly likely.

However, in the end I snapcall this one every day, and when VILAN flips KJ I go to 2+2 and write a thread about the hand

And if VILAN is like most 400NL donks, he has tonns of air and A10 Ax hearts **** in his range here.

more likely he has 55 than a straight (cant imagine him calling the flop 3 way with a gutshot, so he'd have to have KhJh), possibly has 2 pair, or decided to play a FD this way etc, folding seems really bad

Its not a gutshot, but Im still not folding barring some sick read on his value range/frequencies.

Is 8 the AF?

against an AF of 8 its hard to find a fold here. If he's so agressive he should show up with weaker made hands/random spews here a lot. Many spewmonkeys just raise the turn scarecard as a bluff, see your turn call as weakness and just bomb the river...

congrats if he has KJ

I really think it's unlikely he vbet worse like this.

I guess it's possible he'd play 55 like this, but it'd be pretty bad imo and pretty optimitic not to discount it from his range.

No wonder durrrr makes so much money.

And I am going to get flamed again for saying this but WTH are we doing flatting turn? Do we really want them to suck out so cheaply, are we ever folding on blank rivers, is he ever just shoving river with complete air??

I raise turn AI.

Nobody ever folds here.

Sure, missclick

I mean, we have no history on VILAN, only info we have is that he is a standard 25/20/8 tag reg. I'm not saying call is right, but we still dont fold

wtf is with VILAN in all your posts

my donkey

Ok, self-owned..

VILLAN, you happy now

the 8% is 3bet, but I think there is some chance he flats everything but AK pf to keep the fish in. that's just a guess, but if we're counting combos we have to give him more credit for having big pairs and broadway hands than normal since he would want to keep the 60/5 BB in.

KJ is an OESD on the flop. and I would really expect a set of fives to raise the flop. Its a drawy board that smacks my range and he wouldnt expect me to give up with any pairs or draws.

8 is the 3bet %. I thought it was pretty common convention to put XX/XX/X as the VPIP/PFR/3BET%. Is AF even useful? I use AFq sometimes if I have hundreds of hands on a guy, but I pretty much ignore AF.

I did.

Seriously? The red underscore from your browser means you spelled the word wrong again, try villain.

Brilliant if a level but somehow I don't think so.