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07-22-2014 , 07:59 AM

l Leo l

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Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 81

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101 BB
SB: 152 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 153.5 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (UTG): 103.5 BB
MP: 107.5 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, MP calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 3

Hero bets 4.5 BB, MP raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 19 BB, MP calls 10 BB

Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) K

Hero bets 32 BB, MP calls 32 BB

River: (108.5 BB, 2 players) T

Hero bets 50 BB and is all-in, MP calls 50 BB

Hero shows K

(Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 81%, Turn 84%)
MP shows 2

(Flush, Ace High) (Pre 33%, Flop 19%, Turn 16%)
MP wins 201 BB

Bad run out, but could I have avoided losing a stack here? I dont like the flop raise, at the time I was thinking value but a smooth call is probably best here and let him bluff some more? I could also be beat by a set.

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07-22-2014 , 08:03 AM

neok

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As a standard I'd just flat the flopraise to keep villains bluffs in. If you know villain is bad enough to minraise/flat3b with Ahigh here a flop 3bet seems good tho, lol.

Runout is just unlucky but standard after flopplay.

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07-22-2014 , 08:13 AM

strikershank

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Don't like flop raise. Just call his weird 3bet that essentially says he's on a set or Q with a good/great kicker....By raising flop you announce you have AQ/KQ or KK/AA so unless villain has a Q he should fold. but clearly you're vs. a fish so the runout sucked, you can't fold river even if you x and he bet you can't fold for 3:1 with a set vs. backdoor flush/backdoor straight, bluff potential and especially since villain could easily make the same bet with 2pr.

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07-22-2014 , 08:45 AM

IMC

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Unless you have a read that he likes to raise CBs with air I would just flat the flop because when you re-raise you turn your hand face up and he can't really call unless he has you beat. (well he shouldn't anyway).

Turn/River are standard, you can't fold once you hit the K on the turn. I would be shoving the river and praying for a call.

Uber donk hits runner-runner, what can you do.

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07-22-2014 , 09:00 AM

TWhelan

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Originally Posted by neok

Ha yeah +1

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07-22-2014 , 09:03 AM

l Leo l

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Thanks guys, when i looked back at my hand thats the main thing i picked up on, the flop reraise was incorrect. Thanks for confirming, pretty sure i was losing the money here anyway but in a different situation the flop play would have been important. Thanks for everyones input

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07-22-2014 , 09:05 AM

l Leo l

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Actually out of interest - if we had smooth called this raise here on the flop and spike the K on the turn - we are acting first, what are your preferred lines? Are you leading into the pot or checking and seeing if he'll bluff away some more?

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07-22-2014 , 11:21 AM

The Hit

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Originally Posted by l Leo l

isn't leading on the turn as bad as re-raising his flop raise?

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07-22-2014 , 12:39 PM

l Leo l

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I think it is thats why I asked, given that we lead out and were raised, we cant then call / bet out. Were obviously not worried about giving him a free card when we hit trips on a reasonably dry board, obviously backdoor clubs turned but I woulnt normally think it would be a problem. So thinking purely from a value point of view, are we not missing a street of value if he just checks the turn right back?

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