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02-12-2009 , 02:18 PM
i am experimenting a lot lately with squeezing sc's, but unfortunately this fails a decent amount of the time opener is 19/13 with 25 pct steal, caller is 32/18 with AF of 2.4. how is my line?

Party Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $72.70
UTG: $159.35
MP: $113.65
CO: $50
BTN: $49.90
Hero (SB): $59.30

Pre-Flop: 8 7 dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, CO raises to $2, BTN calls $2, Hero raises to $7.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $5.50

Flop: ($17.50) T Q J (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($17.50) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($17.50) 6 (2 Players)
Hero bets $9
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02-12-2009 , 02:23 PM
make ur 3bet size slightly larger

bet turn if nething...
i personally just c/f all the way
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02-12-2009 , 03:03 PM
is it long term profitable to squeeze suited connectors oop? should the flop be cbetted here?
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02-12-2009 , 03:10 PM
i don think i'd cbet but dats me o.O
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02-12-2009 , 03:11 PM
If you are going to go for this you gotta be the turn, checking the turn tells him that his Jack is good. If you bet there turn he is thinking "ok I guess he has it" but thats the LAG in me talking.
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is it long term profitable to squeeze suited connectors oop?
I dont think so, but he said he is experimenting so he gets a pass?
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02-12-2009 , 03:34 PM
Your line makes no sense IMO.
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02-12-2009 , 03:41 PM
I like to squeze but when im on the BTN.
If i see this exact hand happening from the MP and CO, i squeeze. The only problem here is that the weak villain(co from mine and btn from your hand) will call. So the squeeze will fail like 70% of the time.
As played bet turn or c/F all the way.
Do not and i repeat DO NOT try to bet the river, you will get a call.(your line looks so bluffy!).
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02-12-2009 , 04:06 PM
b/f turn, what's he checking behind with on the flop?
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02-12-2009 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Turniphead
is it long term profitable to squeeze suited connectors oop? should the flop be cbetted here?
MMM well squeezes work so often that it probably will be +EV but its really just to mix up your squeezing range if anything. I think mostly squeezing with Premiums and mix in the odd SC is good.

I dont think this is a c-bet-able flop. It hits villians range hard. Whats he flatting and whats being 4bet. hes flatting QQ-TT, and possibly AK. Hes 4betting AA/KK/possibly AK. So his calling range has hit hard. Mostly a set or straight. just my 2c
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02-12-2009 , 04:30 PM
i agree that i dont represent anything and that i should either bet turn or just give up normally. but when he checked back my impression was "this guy has absolutely nothing, i just have to bet".
i realize that against a thinking opponent this riverbet is clueless, but don't you think it is profitable against players who only play their cards?

In this particular hand villain folded but i still wasn't sure about either check on flop and turn or the river bet.
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02-12-2009 , 04:56 PM
It's not profitable to bet the river here, bet the turn! You may well think that villain has nothing because he's checking back, but a lot of the time he will be checking back a jack, a ten, sometimes a weak queen, often a medium pocket pair. Most of these hands will call your river bet but will often fold to a flop or turn bet.
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02-12-2009 , 06:05 PM
I'm not putting in anymore money at any point in this hand.
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02-12-2009 , 08:06 PM
c/f all the way
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02-12-2009 , 08:53 PM
What's with everyone giving up? Doesn't this flop smack our 3betting range preflop? I fire one bullet at the flop then give up or definitely bet the turn after he checks back; but in the future I'm not squeezing someone who has 25% attempt to steal unless they've been doing it the last few orbits.
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