I thought that the flop had totally missed his range, whereas it would smash a speculative hand from the BB. Obviously I didn't think he was as strong as KK, which is my own fault for not 3betting, but any 2 broadways or midpair would struggle against further heat. When I take this line I am going to barrel any potential scare card on the turn, such as the diamond making up the 3flush, but unfortunately for me he spiked top set lol. I dont think total bluffs should be used liberally at the micros, but I thought this was the correct spot. Obviously I was very, very wrong

I see, you actually ended up saving a little bit more as if you just had shoved on the river. Plus, there was a slight chance your aces would've stood up. I can see how you caught the mistake and tried to minimize loss on the river now. Very cool.

his range is actually stronger than yours on this flop

and i dont see how you can he assume this flop just misses him

taking into account that he can have so many flush draws since we have no blockers

this is so epic.

deepz was laconic and very accurate.
when you come to 2+2 for advice you have to deal with the **** posters give to you alongside with good information

I would call you down without the K but I'm a station.

Think about what hands you rep when you x/r flop...

So can someone illuminate me on ranges and equities OTF and OTT?

Because I did not think flop and turn were that awful, but obviously I am wrong here...

Flop: OP reps a sets or big draws like Td9d which are all in his range. x/r with a blocker e.g. Ad is certainly better but dont think this is too bad. Villain has all broadways in his range so we should have reasonable FE.

Turn: continuing range if villain is probably 99-AA and FDs allthough I tend to think he might tries to gii OTF with Td9d, Jd9d, JdTd and all FDs containing the 6d. With the 2nd barrel we fold out 99-QQ I think, so I dont think it is too bad either.

Can someone be a little more accurate on ranges and equity on the flop and the turn? Am I missing something?

We have almost 0 equity when called, if we bluff with AQo here, then we pretty much bluff this flop 100% no? Pick a better hand

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And for value we rep 6combos of sets and

What villains calling range to x/r OTF in your opinion?
Think it would be FDs and 99-AA. Do not have an equity calculator handy but think our equity might be better than we expect.

Can you give accurate ranges for villain cbetting calling x/r and combos he calls and folds on the turn?

Would be curious to take an accurate look at equities in the hand.

Oh and yes, the move only makes Sense if you do not do it with 100% of course.

Also I assume you have a decent image.

Well then pick a better hand

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So here we go:

Vs calling range of 99-AA, FDs (2 diamonds): AK-A8, KQ-KT, QJ, JT, T9, 86, A6

we 24.4% equity on the flop with AQ.

OTT assuming ranges as before.
Fold out 24 combos 99-QQ
Crushed by 6combos AA, 3 combos KK and 12 FD combos that got there (taking out Kd combos from the range)
Total 24:21 combos. A bet does not look too bad here.

Maybe should add a couple of combos of stubborn 8x OTF.

Let me know where I have gone wrong?

Fair enough.

What about all the 7x and 8x I dont fold otf?

best option

Right, will include them later since I do not have time right now.

But I suspect that all one pair hands will not change the equity a lot since we have roughly 24% with 2 overs (maybe little less).

also, do you fold them OTT with an over card plus the FD coming in? Also think betting turn might be slightly more profitable in that case.

As I posted earlier, if we have a read villain is folding a ton against x/r, the play is okay (but then we also need to give up alot when called, possibly even diamonds because his range will be too strong).

The problem is, if you bluff AQo w/out a diamond then you are probably bluffing too much, that"s why this is spewy. The read that "the flop doesn't hit COs range" is both incorrect and not enough reason to justify this.

So much fail in this thread.

You say you had a good run of cards so were 3betting 10%, this isn't that high....
From this and other statements I would say you are pretty bad and should work on value betting etc before taking weird/ba line like this.

And yes I know I sound like a douche but I think people will agree.

Your call pre-flop with A-Qo is fairly standard
On the flop you decided to check raise on a 5d 7d 8s
With just two overcards, here I prefer folding influenced by the size of the bet, and because of the reverse implied odds of the situation, villain could have two diamonds an overpair straight draw top pair etc.
As mentioned I don’t like your check raise on the flop bloats the pot, though does have the advantage of slowing him down on a dangerous flop.

On the Turn you lead out which is fairly normal line to take as you represent strength
The river you check call when hitting your ace which I like as your hand is essentially a bluff catcher.

In essence your river play I think is ok, but don’t like your flop check raise with that holding.

To answer your question is it acceptable to call a large river bet mainly for information, it could be if you are playing a large number of hands with the same opponent, but less so in a tournament situation.

It's not irrelevant at all. He's telling you how to avoid ever getting into such a silly spot on the river in the first place. Contrary to popular belief, poker isn't about getting yourself into impossible situations where all your choices really really suck. It's about maneuvering other people into those awful spots so you can rape them for value, while you yourself avoid as many of them as possible, therefore losing as little as possible.