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12-29-2023 , 03:00 PM

newguyhere

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Haven't played in the last 3-4 months. Not sure what to make of this donk bet.

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 0.1(BB)
HERO (120.1BBs)
SB (98.8BBs) [VPIP: 26.7% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 53.3% | Hands: 15]
BB (214.1BBs) [VPIP: 46.7% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 23.1% | Hands: 15]
UTG (44.8BBs) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 2]
HJ (99BBs) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 0% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 2]
CO (60.8BBs) [VPIP: 22.2% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 40% | Hands: 9]

Dealt to Hero: A

UTG Calls 1BBs, HJ Calls 1BBs, CO Folds, HERO Raises To 5BBs, SB Calls 4.5BBs, BB Calls 4BBs, UTG Calls 4BBs, HJ Calls 4BBs

Hero SPR on Flop: [1.59 effective]
Flop (25BBs): Q

SB Bets 17.9BBs (Rem. Stack: 75.9BBs), BB Folds, UTG Folds, HJ Folds, Hero?

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12-29-2023 , 03:14 PM

swerbs22

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I'm wondering what I'm going to do on turn and rivers if I call this bet.

What do you think?

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12-29-2023 , 03:15 PM

newguyhere

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Originally Posted by swerbs22

I'm wondering what I'm going to do on turn and rivers if I call this bet.

What do you think?

It crossed my mind.

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12-29-2023 , 03:16 PM

swerbs22

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

It crossed my mind.

I'd like calling a little more if i maybe had the BDFD

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12-29-2023 , 03:20 PM

TripleBerryJam

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I would fold QT here, calling AQ mostly to make a boat or win vs QT/AT shutting down.

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12-29-2023 , 03:34 PM

AskZandar

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I'd have clicked the fold checkbox as soon as I saw the bet.

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12-29-2023 , 04:39 PM

Ceres

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Now that's initiative

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12-30-2023 , 05:16 AM

Unguarded

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Welcome back! I hate folding to dumb lines like this, but our hand is pretty much an airball against the range he is representing. Funny hand.

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12-30-2023 , 08:40 AM

newguyhere

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Originally Posted by Unguarded

Welcome back! I hate folding to dumb lines like this, but our hand is pretty much an airball against the range he is representing. Funny hand.

Thanks. Yeah that's kind of what I thought as well, and then of course considering what would happen if I faced further aggression which seemed very likely.

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Originally Posted by AskZandar

I'd have clicked the fold checkbox as soon as I saw the bet.

Well it wasn't that fast, but I did find the fold.

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12-30-2023 , 10:03 PM

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newguyhere

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lol #owned

Spoiler:

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12-30-2023 , 10:15 PM

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Unguarded

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Sometimes you just have to accept that you got outplayed.

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01-02-2024 , 07:57 AM

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slyless

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

lol #owned

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In theory, calling is fine, but on micro players often continue to bet after a large bet on the flop, unlike in theory.
So folding already on the flop is reasonable.

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01-03-2024 , 12:01 AM

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Koss

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When I have a hand that doesn't want to stack off, can't really improve, and some fish starts telling me that the hand is gonna go for stacks, I tend to bail out earlier than theory suggests.

Like slyless said, guys rarely check turn as often as they should once taking an aggro flop action, and there are no good turns for our hand.

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01-03-2024 , 12:49 AM

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TripleBerryJam

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Originally Posted by slyless

In theory, calling is fine, but on micro players often continue to bet after a large bet on the flop, unlike in theory.
So folding already on the flop is reasonable.

I'm guessing it's a massive mistake to call in theory but I've never looked at a multiway sim.

Even heads up I doubt you can call unless ranges are super wide.

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01-03-2024 , 03:00 AM

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boulgakov

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UTG folded T4o on the flop, I'm shocked.

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01-03-2024 , 05:43 AM

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newguyhere

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Originally Posted by boulgakov

UTG folded T4o on the flop, I'm shocked.

It's true. Poker is dead.

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01-03-2024 , 06:09 AM

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newguyhere

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Originally Posted by TripleBerryJam

Even heads up I doubt you can call unless ranges are super wide.

So this was interesting. Intuitively, I wouldn't think SB would have a donking range if this were a HU pot.

But they actually donk around 30-37% of the time with a small sizing.

In theory against villain's sizing, we would never fold this hand. We'd start finding folds with A7 and lower.

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