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Decision with overpair on flop Decision with overpair on flop

02-05-2010 , 04:07 PM
Rush poker, have limited stats on players:
CO is 60/40/40 over 5 hands
BB is 47/0/64 over 17 hands

With BB flatting my 4bet and the call from the CO is it reasonable to assume I'm beat when CO moves all in? Time to just laydown and wait for a better spot?

I think CO would have reraised to try and isolate with KK+ so thinking I'm either up against trips or at least 2 pair. Don't see him making this move with just a PP other than JJ or QQ. Straight is a possibility as well if CO makes the PF call with 98 which he was getting over 3:1 to make that call plus implied odds if he hits.


Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG+2: $23.75
MP1: $3.34
MP2: $9.88
CO: $7.85
Hero (BTN): $9.70
SB: $5.72
BB: $34.62
UTG: $13.92
UTG+1: $45.14

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with Q Q
3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.95, 1 fold, BB calls $1.85, 1 fold, CO calls $1.45

Flop: ($6.20) 6 T 7 (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $5.90 all in, Hero raises to $7.75 all in, BB calls $7.75

Last edited by mav0031; 02-05-2010 at 04:10 PM. Reason: correction to PF action
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02-05-2010 , 04:12 PM
Both players seem pretty fishy, so this looks fine.
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02-05-2010 , 04:30 PM
seems kind of standard. I wouldn't be looking to fold this.
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02-05-2010 , 04:59 PM
wp
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02-05-2010 , 05:21 PM
wp? Worthless post?
wondering why this is standard? Isn't is reasonable to assume CO has to put me on a big pocket pair after the 4 bet and knows I'm going to call? Seems like its situations like this that continually lead me into trouble (calling off with only a pair).
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02-05-2010 , 05:26 PM
hand is fine
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02-05-2010 , 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav0031
wp? Worthless post?
wondering why this is standard? Isn't is reasonable to assume CO has to put me on a big pocket pair after the 4 bet and knows I'm going to call? Seems like its situations like this that continually lead me into trouble (calling off with only a pair).
wp = well played
wt = worthless thread; next time instead of looking for reassurances post this stuff in bbv
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02-05-2010 , 06:36 PM
OK thanks, as you can see I'm new here being a "stranger" and will look to BBV in the future for these types of posts.

Seriously wondered if this was more of a leak that could get plugged being able to lay down with just an overpair to the board with the PF action that took place in this hand.
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02-05-2010 , 06:57 PM
We think cold 4 betting QQ otb is standard? I hate it to be honest.

CO's stats are over 5 hands.
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02-05-2010 , 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav0031
OK thanks, as you can see I'm new here being a "stranger" and will look to BBV in the future for these types of posts.

Seriously wondered if this was more of a leak that could get plugged being able to lay down with just an overpair to the board with the PF action that took place in this hand.
folding overpairs in 3b pots (with rare exceptions) is a leak cause there is already so much cash in the middle. In smaller pots folding overpairs is a lot easier in the right circumstances cause there is so much less money invested.
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02-05-2010 , 07:53 PM
looks standard to me
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02-05-2010 , 08:48 PM
first thought is that u three betting on the button looks light and since you have QQ and not some random air hand i am much more likely to get this hand in at some point. on this flop i think it's pretty good/fine/+ev to get in even with two players in the hand. they are just so fishy
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02-05-2010 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonsAreCool
We think cold 4 betting QQ otb is standard? I hate it to be honest.

CO's stats are over 5 hands.
C/O minraise 3bet i mean that's a ******ed hand like 100% of the time and a mandatory 4bet imo. yeah, it's a three bet but its still to only 5bb's total which is what some ppl just open to and if you call you have really no reliable info in the hand and certainly going at least 3ways to flop
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