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Currently in a huge downswing - thoughts on these hands? Currently in a huge downswing - thoughts on these hands?

12-22-2014 , 09:51 PM
Am I playing bad or has variance come for a visit?

    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $1.11 (22.2 bb)
    Hero (BB): $5 (100 bb)
    UTG+2: $5.47 (109.4 bb)
    MP1: $5 (100 bb)
    MP2: $5.28 (105.6 bb)
    MP3: $5 (100 bb)
    CO: $5 (100 bb)
    BTN: $8.15 (163 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T 8
    2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, MP3 calls $0.15, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.10

    Flop: ($0.47) 9 J 5 (3 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.32, MP3 calls $0.32, Hero calls $0.32

    Turn: ($1.43) 6 (3 players)
    Hero bets $1.02, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.02

    River: ($3.47) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP3 bets $2.49, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $3.47 pot ($0.14 rake)
    Final Board: 9 J 5 6 J
    Hero mucked T 8 and lost (-$1.49 net)
    MP3 mucked and won $3.33 ($1.84 net)


      Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $5 (100 bb)
      BB: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
      UTG+1: $5.82 (116.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $5 (100 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $5.07 (101.4 bb)
      MP2: $14.17 (283.4 bb)
      MP3: $5 (100 bb)
      CO: $5.15 (103 bb)
      BTN: $5.42 (108.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A Q
      UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.22, MP2 calls $0.22, MP3 calls $0.22, 5 folds

      Flop: ($0.78) 6 A T (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.37, MP2 calls $0.37, MP3 folds

      Turn: ($1.52) 5 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.09, MP2 raises to $13.58 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.39 and is all-in

      River: ($10.48) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $10.48 pot ($0.43 rake)
      Final Board: 6 A T 5 A
      Hero showed A Q and lost (-$5.07 net)
      MP2 showed A K and won $10.05 ($4.98 net)


        Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $5.15 (103 bb)
        BB: $3.49 (69.8 bb)
        UTG+2: $5.29 (105.8 bb)
        MP1: $5.25 (105 bb)
        MP2: $5 (100 bb)
        MP3: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
        CO: $7.33 (146.6 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with T T
        4 folds, CO raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.45, 2 folds, CO calls $0.30

        Flop: ($0.97) J 4 2 (2 players)
        CO checks, Hero bets $0.46, CO raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.94

        Turn: ($3.77) 4 (2 players)
        CO bets $5.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.15 and is all-in

        River: ($10.07) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $10.07 pot ($0.42 rake)
        Final Board: J 4 2 4 4
        CO showed K K and won $9.65 ($4.65 net)
        Hero showed T T and lost (-$5 net)


          Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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          SB: $4.58 (91.6 bb)
          BB: $5.54 (110.8 bb)
          MP1: $5.65 (113 bb)
          MP2: $5.41 (108.2 bb)
          MP3: $5.22 (104.4 bb)
          Hero (CO): $5.07 (101.4 bb)
          BTN: $5 (100 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
          MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 3 folds

          Flop: ($0.37) T 6 7 (2 players)
          MP2 bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26

          Turn: ($0.89) 8 (2 players)
          MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.55, MP2 calls $0.55

          River: ($1.99) 4 (2 players)
          MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.95, MP2 raises to $2.20, Hero calls $1.25

          Spoiler:
          Results: $6.39 pot ($0.27 rake)
          Final Board: T 6 7 8 4
          MP2 showed 8 T and won $6.12 ($2.96 net)
          Hero mucked 9 9 and lost (-$3.16 net)


            Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            SB: $5 (100 bb)
            Hero (BB): $5.71 (114.2 bb)
            UTG+1: $12.75 (255 bb)
            UTG+2: $5.82 (116.4 bb)
            MP1: $4.71 (94.2 bb)
            MP2: $5.51 (110.2 bb)
            MP3: $13.70 (274 bb)
            CO: $5.05 (101 bb)
            BTN: $5.81 (116.2 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with J A
            UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.05, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.25, UTG+2 calls $0.20, BTN folds, SB calls $0.20

            Flop: ($0.80) K 4 Q (3 players)
            SB bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15, UTG+2 calls $0.15

            Turn: ($1.25) A (3 players)
            SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.90, UTG+2 raises to $1.65, SB calls $1.50, Hero calls $0.75

            River: ($6.20) 9 (3 players)
            SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $3.77 and is all-in, 2 folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $6.20 pot ($0.26 rake)
            Final Board: K 4 Q A 9
            SB mucked and lost (-$2.05 net)
            Hero mucked J A and lost (-$2.05 net)
            UTG+2 mucked and won $5.94 ($3.89 net)


              Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
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              SB: $7.80 (156 bb)
              BB: $4 (80 bb)
              UTG+2: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
              MP1: $14.75 (295 bb)
              MP2: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
              MP3: $5.07 (101.4 bb)
              CO: $10.37 (207.4 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 8
              5 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, SB folds, BB calls $0.10

              Flop: ($0.32) J A 3 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $0.15, BB calls $0.15

              Turn: ($0.62) 7 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero checks

              River: ($0.62) A (2 players)
              BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.55, BB raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.85

              Spoiler:
              Results: $3.42 pot ($0.14 rake)
              Final Board: J A 3 7 A
              BB showed J A and won $3.28 ($1.58 net)
              Hero mucked A 8 and lost (-$1.70 net)


                Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                SB: $5 (100 bb)
                BB: $5.64 (112.8 bb)
                MP1: $5 (100 bb)
                MP2: $5.43 (108.6 bb)
                MP3: $4.95 (99 bb)
                CO: $5.14 (102.8 bb)
                Hero (BTN): $5.29 (105.8 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
                MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 2 folds

                Flop: ($0.37) K 3 6 (2 players)
                MP2 bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

                Turn: ($0.67) T (2 players)
                MP2 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

                River: ($1.27) 8 (2 players)
                MP2 bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

                Spoiler:
                Results: $2.67 pot ($0.11 rake)
                Final Board: K 3 6 T 8
                MP2 showed K K and won $2.56 ($1.26 net)
                Hero mucked A Q and lost (-$1.30 net)
                Currently in a huge downswing - thoughts on these hands? Quote
                12-23-2014 , 08:22 AM
                Learn to b/f, quit marrying medium strength hands. You seem to be a pay off wizard. Call down agrotards light sure, but it seems regs are just taking you to value town.
                Currently in a huge downswing - thoughts on these hands? Quote
                12-23-2014 , 09:50 AM
                too many marginal plays on your side to be honest. Try to find a fold more often and wait for spots that are more profitable
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                12-23-2014 , 03:11 PM
                this is like a self induced downswing, ive been there. never considering you are second best. find more folds and you may be completely unbalanced between bluffs and value hands. my c bets and made hands are similar in sizing, looks like you bomb anytime you feel you are best. ur opponents feel you are strong and still coming over the top. this should really tell you you are beat in these pots. paying off is a massive leak. i didnt start winning in ring games until i folded marginal hands.
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                12-23-2014 , 04:15 PM
                don't post 189 hands in one thread man. ain't nobody got the time or energy to pour over those.

                a lot of those hands you lose large pots with single pairs. i'd work on avoiding that. if you find yourself in a large pot with only top pair, you need to be pretty sure you are good.
                Currently in a huge downswing - thoughts on these hands? Quote
                12-23-2014 , 05:18 PM
                I'm going to give you an over simplified rule to follow. It would have helped with all of these hands. As you improve, you can refine it to not be so broad, as there are exceptions.

                If you face a large raise post flop in a non-3b pot, fold your one pair hands that don't include a draw.

                e.g. AK in a non-3b pot on a A872 board and V puts in a big raise someplace? fold - this is tripply true if V limped before your raise. Ac5d on a Ad 6c 7c 4c, call.
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                12-24-2014 , 03:27 AM
                Hand 1 - Too many reverse implied odds to be chasing the straight draw on the flop imo. Probably just fold there.

                Hand 2 - Your flop bet kinda sucks. Turn jam is a fold

                Hand 3 - Bad. You are never good here. This looks like tilt. Might be easier to just flat TT and play the flop. As played, you definitely should not be calling flop raise.

                Hand 4 - Kinda sucks for you. Bitch raise on river basically makes it one of those spots where you know you are beat but have to call. Played fine.

                Hand 5 - Either fold flop right away or raise it to a standard cbet size. I guess you can call to see a cheap card but then the pot gets all ****ed up on the turn and you can never determine villain's range.

                Hand 6 - Bet flop bigger. Villain is a slowplaying ho. You can probably find a fold once you get reraised on the river since all As he has in his hand will be bigger than yours.

                Hand 7 - prefer 3bet preflop. No idea why you are calling flop and turn.

                Conclusion:
                1/7 hands I liked
                6/7 hands were meh.

                You need to bet larger with value hands.
                You need to learn how to fold more in marginal spots.

                Go back to the drawing board. You've got a lot to learn.
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