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08-28-2010 , 12:37 PM
In this hand villain was one of those 1-tabling fish playing all sorts of ****** hands. He was running 48/15/5 over 150 hands.


Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $24.42
BB: $10.35
UTG: $10.36
CO: $10.92
Hero (BTN): $31.56

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J J
1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, SB raises to $1.40, 1 fold, CO calls $1.30, Hero calls $0.95

Flop: ($4.30) K T Q (3 players)
SB bets $2.70, CO folds, Hero calls $2.70

Turn: ($9.70) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, SB calls $4.50

River: ($18.70) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ????

What do you do on the river? Turn the hand into a bluff after he c/c turn c/river? Or give up and check back?

Feel free to comment on how badly I might've played the previous streets.
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08-28-2010 , 01:23 PM
Check turn, as played check river.
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08-28-2010 , 01:35 PM
The way the hand was played I'm probably checking behind on the river. You have to take into consideration the types of hands villain would be 3betting oop in the sb. Lets say that he has no positional awareness because of his stats... well, you can easily widen his 3betting range somewhat, other than premium hands such as AK, AQs, and all pairs 10s+ to hands like AJ, A10, KQ, KJ etc at best. Even with these hands he hits big on that flop. I like your call on the flop because you get such good value from TpTk or two pair type hands if you happen to hit your oesd. I see what you are trying to do on the 3 heart turn when he checks but the fact that he called oop on the 3 heart turn makes me think he has a high heart in his hand, or is c/c two pair or a set and the heart scares him. Either way I'm not sure you are getting him off a better hand than yours if you shove the river, when you look at the texture of the board.

If I was playing that hand from the start I'd take your line up to the turn. Then I'd check instead to see a free river with my oesd and most likely check behind on the river if he checks to me. Weak I know but there are so many hands that beat you and I don't think you get any value from betting jacks on a KQxxx flushed board.
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08-28-2010 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by teikchip
Feel free to comment on how badly I might've played the previous streets.
Why you bet turn? you semibluffing, and think villain folds ??? AQ (A non heart)?
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08-28-2010 , 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Onasaz
Why you bet turn? you semibluffing, and think villain folds ??? AQ (A non heart)?
Well yeah, I wanted to bluff him off a one-pair hand (except AA) that didn't have a heart.

Maybe the turn bet by itself is not good unless I plan on betting the river?
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08-28-2010 , 01:59 PM
Why are u betting the turn. His check calling range prob owns ur hand well maybe not his because he's a fish but still is not good. Against this type of player I'm not bluffing otr because he's not good enough to lay down TP.
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08-28-2010 , 04:09 PM
So what range bets the flop and checks the turn, and still owns my hand?

I mean.... I think he would want to keep betting to get more of his stack in on the river.
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08-28-2010 , 04:13 PM
Check behind turn and river
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08-28-2010 , 04:29 PM
bet both turn and river
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08-28-2010 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Batman1421
bet both turn and river
Not this, villain's stats and reads make him folding Kx or AQ questionable.
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