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Cooler or am I a fish? Cooler or am I a fish?

08-26-2010 , 05:08 AM
So, i took this "beat" that I feel is a cooler...but i've had a couple consecutive losing sessions and ALWAYS seem to end up losing the MAXIMUM whenever I run into a set if i have high pockets to a low-board (live and online).

So, it got me to wondering wether I just run into coolers or I have a major fault in my game. Let me know what you think and any constructive criticism and suggestions for my set problems.


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $27.62
UTG: $23.15
UTG+1: $48.90
MP1: $27.47
MP2: $36.77
CO: $12.87
BTN: $17.30
SB: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with 8 8
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, 2 folds, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) Q 8 4 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $3

Turn: ($12.85) J (2 players)
Hero bets $3.75, CO calls $3.75

River: ($20.35) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, CO calls $3.87 all in

Final Pot: $28.09
Hero shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
CO shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
CO wins $26.74
(Rake: $1.35)
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08-26-2010 , 05:10 AM
BBV.

Shove turn.
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08-26-2010 , 05:11 AM
This hand history doesn't really illustrate your question...
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08-26-2010 , 05:11 AM
you're a fish




without a doubt
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08-26-2010 , 05:13 AM
dont post results NEVE EVER or you get replies like this :-)
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08-26-2010 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
dont post results NEVE EVER or you get replies like this :-)
lol, thanks for that info!

I was expecting it...I know some people like to troll and have no value to my posts, but thats what the internet is all about isnt it...faceless trolling!haha

so bad? very bad?
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08-26-2010 , 05:18 AM
What do you wanna hear? I still dont get the post (like all the others). You lost set vs. set...those things happen. He could have AA/KK/AQ instead of QQ and you only lost to a 50bb stack. Just get used to it and dont post those hands....nobody is interested cause it's not a difficult situation at all.
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08-26-2010 , 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Messenjupp
What do you wanna hear? I still dont get the post (like all the others). You lost set vs. set...those things happen. He could have AA/KK/AQ instead of QQ and you only lost to a 50bb stack. Just get used to it and dont post those hands....nobody is interested cause it's not a difficult situation at all.
i guess i wanted to hear "those things happen"

so let the insults begin
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08-26-2010 , 06:12 AM
Set over set. You are supposed to pay off, and get paid off. And pay the maximum rake for your trouble!
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08-26-2010 , 06:33 AM
It happens and sometimes you'll be on the good side of this. Not much you can do.
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08-26-2010 , 08:13 AM
Classic cooler.
You should've shoved the turn. Many times villain will call and flip up two spades. At any rate, you will be ahead many more times than villain has an overset.
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08-26-2010 , 09:06 AM
fold the flop you ugly fish.
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08-26-2010 , 09:20 AM
BBV but I hate your bet sizing on the turn. Just shove it.
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08-26-2010 , 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Messenjupp
What do you wanna hear? I still dont get the post (like all the others). You lost set vs. set...those things happen. He could have AA/KK/AQ instead of QQ and you only lost to a 50bb stack. Just get used to it and dont post those hands....nobody is interested cause it's not a difficult situation at all.
+1.
The information that you are a fish is not gained from the hand you posted,but from the fact that you posted this hand...
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08-26-2010 , 10:24 AM
Twice last night - I just sniffed and thought 'ah well' and moved on.

Set over set is approx 100 to 1 against so the other 99 times your set is good.

If you're thinking about folding sets you shouldn't (unless the board tells you to)

Goes with the territory.

Total cooler.

Good luck.

J

J


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08-26-2010 , 11:32 AM
Worrying about turn size is being picky. Once he calls the flop, niether one of you is folding to any river card with what he has left in his stack. But if stack sizes are different, ya your bet sizing sucks bad. Nh, ul.
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08-26-2010 , 11:34 AM
This is not an either/or question.
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08-26-2010 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Abou Rachid
fold the flop you ugly fish.
Best response I've seen all day. Well played.
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08-26-2010 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kb coolman
This is not an either/or question.
Topeka!
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08-26-2010 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SammyG-SD
Topeka!
You from Kansas?
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08-26-2010 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabadu
Worrying about turn size is being picky. Once he calls the flop, niether one of you is folding to any river card with what he has left in his stack. But if stack sizes are different, ya your bet sizing sucks bad. Nh, ul.
Actually it matters when villain has a flush draw
Vilain will call a turn shove (as most fish) but if he misses he folds on the river so you will lose value
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08-26-2010 , 03:01 PM
Flop raise is to small
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08-26-2010 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Abou Rachid
fold the flop you ugly fish.
So I think the secret is to welcome the insults and the trolls are a bit more reluctant to post, I only got this insult...nice!

I'm basically reading that my post flop bets were too small, and it's hard to get rid of the worst set in a set over set situation. Thanks for all the constructive replies, and go chug some maple syrup ya goof...thanks for replying, im glad you got to post!
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08-26-2010 , 05:03 PM
fish
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08-26-2010 , 05:13 PM
*shakes head* ...such an easy fold on the flop.
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