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Confusing hand vs reg, call or fold? Confusing hand vs reg, call or fold?

01-11-2010 , 09:38 PM
I havent posted a hand for a while but this one is buggine me, I could have nightmares about it. So what are 2+2's thoughts.

Villain here is 22/18/3.3 over 3.7k hands, no specific notes because up until recently my note-taking had been terrible.

Its unlikely he knows much about my game since Party allows you to change usernames regularly and I changed mine not long ago (unless he paired this name with my older names). I was running around 29/18 on this table as I was sitting on top of a big donk, he was playing fairly loose too.

So is this an obv call, or is calling just donating to his flush. The shove seems odd as I would think he is raising a lot of his flush draws on the flop, and again raising his made flushes on the turn. Does he sometimes have kk or some wierd 88. Its hard to fold a set but given how strong my line is and he's shoving into me is this an easy fold?

Party Poker $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 469493
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MP: $400.00
CO: $208.78
Hero (BTN): $852.90
SB: $448.50
BB: $400.00
UTG: $96.55

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with 7 7
1 fold, MP raises to $14, 1 fold, Hero calls $14, 2 folds

Flop: ($34.00) 6 7 3 (2 players)
MP bets $24.22, Hero raises to $80.44, MP calls $56.22

Turn: ($194.88) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $105.00, MP calls $105

River: ($404.88) 8 (2 players)
MP bets $200.56, Hero ???????
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01-11-2010 , 09:41 PM
yuck. I think this is a fold but could be swayed?
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01-11-2010 , 09:44 PM
such a **** line from villain unless he is bluffing so call
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01-11-2010 , 10:55 PM
what the ****ing hell is he doing

I think a read like "can do stupid stuff" or "very solid" can sway this one way or the other.
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01-11-2010 , 11:18 PM
I had no notes on him over 3k odd hands so that probably favors him being solid as I could well of noted him doing bizzare stuff. Also, on the flop he took ages before deciding to call nearly used all his time bank), perhaps that may make a difference, i'm still lost on this hand.
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01-12-2010 , 01:14 AM
Call his line makes no sense
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01-12-2010 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by bicolor_le_bond
Call his line makes no sense
it makes sense that he's bad and has a flush
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01-12-2010 , 05:35 AM
I would call and expect to lose about 58% of the time
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01-12-2010 , 11:42 AM
I ended up folding, not sure if it was a good fold, kind of wish I called just to see what he had with this bizzare line.
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01-12-2010 , 11:51 AM
I fold. I agree with your logic. However, there are no 2 pair hands in his range and so I think KK and nut flush (more likely) are most likely. I guess it is possible he has 66 or 33 but rarely.

I think you mostly only beat a bluff and he is not bluffing here often enough.
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01-12-2010 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorlaw
I fold. I agree with your logic. However, there are no 2 pair hands in his range and so I think KK and nut flush (more likely) are most likely. I guess it is possible he has 66 or 33 but rarely.

I think you mostly only beat a bluff and he is not bluffing here often enough.
Yeah I cant really see him having 66 or 33 very often since surely he's very happy to reraise these on the flop.
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01-12-2010 , 12:35 PM
lol his line actually does make sense. he prob thinks hero is capable of chk back river if hes bad. his line is stupid but that doesnt mean were ahead.
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01-12-2010 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by smartalecc5
I would call and expect to lose about 58% of the time
ive recalculated your figures, and it appears closer to 58.775% fwiw.
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01-12-2010 , 01:54 PM
id vomit and call
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01-12-2010 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dannykurttt
id vomit and call
+1
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01-12-2010 , 05:52 PM
He prob has a flush, but not more than 75% of the time.

Call and make a note.
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