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Combo FD & OESD on Btn w/ loose villains betting & raising (2NL micro) Combo FD & OESD on Btn w/ loose villains betting & raising (2NL micro)

03-16-2011 , 08:19 PM
I raise small suited connectors from the button and get into a good situation on flop w/ 3 caller and a combo draw. It's a well hidden inside SD and a low FD. BB is a maniac (62/15/3.8), UTG is a weak fish (52/5/1.1), and MP2 is a very loose fish (67/7/1.0) who's basically short stacked.

The flop is Bet, Raised, Called.... Do I shove? or just call?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
SB ($1.98)
BB ($9.66)
UTG ($3.02)
UTG+1 ($1.51)
UTG+2 ($2)
MP1 ($2)
MP2 ($0.82)
CO ($2)
Hero ($2.67)

Dealt to Hero 5 6

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, MP2 calls $0.02, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, BB calls $0.08, UTG calls $0.08, MP2 calls $0.08

FLOP ($0.41) 8 4 K

BB bets $0.06, UTG raises to $0.12, MP2 calls $0.12, Hero???
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03-16-2011 , 08:36 PM
I would fold. You pretty much have the nut low FD and can count on just the GS.

It's an easy bet if checked to, but once you see an immediate donk, a minraise and a cold-call, AND you don't have the NFD, it's a different story.

Worse, it was the weak fish who raised even though there were two players behind, including the PFR.

If you want, you can call once knowing/hoping that BB won't repop it, but I wouldn't feel great if a club came and you saw more action. After all, there's only one worse FD out there and many better ones...
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03-17-2011 , 01:20 AM
Totally right. Just realizing how misguided I was in this hand. I can't tell you how many times I hear people have responded to hands that I post that bets (or shoves) will fold out worse hands, but only better hands will call. For some reason I'm not taking this concept to the tables. Arrg.

Also, I think I was suffering from fancy play syndrome.
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03-17-2011 , 01:29 AM
jam and im serious
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03-17-2011 , 02:15 AM
You can start by not playing hands like this against fish that never fold anything.
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