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01-14-2008 , 10:44 PM

BobAvellini

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 47

Second hand at the table, no reads. Not sure why I donked flop. Advice on flop, and turn, needed....

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed)

MP ($53.85)
CO ($11.75)
Button ($58.20)
SB ($24.86)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($47.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, T

.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50.

Flop: ($5) J

, Q

, J

(5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50, Button folds, SB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($15) 7

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

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01-14-2008 , 11:06 PM

fromak

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 507

This board is quite drawy but you need to keep betting to build up the pot and charge any large draws. The only person I'd be worried about is CO who raised (only if he has AJ, JJ, or QQ) but I doubt they would've flat called the flop since it's so drawy
I would bet the turn again and call or push any raise

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01-14-2008 , 11:21 PM

limit refugee

adept

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 808

I'm not feeling the 1/2 pot bet on the flop...very drawy and your small bet only invites a schooling of callers, plus lots of value to ectract. I'm betting 4 there and seeing how the crowd reacts. I do donk the flop too, but I lead into flops alot, so I love this spot.

As played, there is no way I check the turn...so many freebies stink and I'm really liking my chances now that the 7 turned...didn't help all the hands needing help. I'm plopping down 11 (some reason it invites less draws calling then 10...beats me why) and I'm thinking I will thin the field more to my liking.

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01-16-2008 , 09:21 AM

BobAvellini

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 47

Guess I underbet again on turn. I'm now thinking I'm up against a better J; is c/c better than push here? Or maybe just a smaller value bet? I'm never quite sure what to do here cuz I feel like a push just folds out worse hands & gets called by better...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed)
MP ($53.85)
CO ($11.75)
Button ($58.20)
SB ($24.86)
Hero ($50)
UTG ($47.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, T

.
1 fold, MP calls $0.50, CO raises to $1, Button calls $1, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50.

Flop: ($5) J

, Q

, J

(5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.5, MP calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50, Button folds, SB calls $2.50.

Turn: ($15) 7

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, MP calls $9, CO calls $8.25 (All-In), SB folds.

River: ($39.75) 3

(3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero???

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01-16-2008 , 09:37 AM

Deuce2Seven

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 322

Dont call a raise oop pf with JTo I dont think it's going to show a profit
Bet closer to pot on the flop
Bet more on the turn like $12
You hand on the river may not be best primarily QQ/AJ/KJ are all co raising hands 6max, that said I don't think your getting away from this so I would say bet like 2/3 pot around $27 obv call a raise/all in althou I wouldn't necessarily be happy about it.

-deuce

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01-16-2008 , 09:55 AM

orlov

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,176

You definetly arent going to get away from this hand, so the idea is to get the most value out of hands you beat.

I think a big part of his range is gonna be a draw rather than a worse q or some other weird hand, so c/c is definetly the best as it allows him to bluff a missed draw on the river.

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01-16-2008 , 10:07 AM

gnfshng

stranger

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 9

I think PF is fine, as long as we let it go when we miss postflop, and don't pay too much for draws vs. that ministack.

1/2 POT vs all those opponents, with all those draws, is too small. I probably do $4.50 on flop and push 1/2-2/3 PSB turn.

As played I still want to bet out to charge draws. Probably shut down on river no matter what, but call river of course(barring a soulread).

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01-16-2008 , 10:17 AM

infinity235

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,212

I don't see anything that keeps us from valuebetting the turn and the river.... bet 20 and call a shove.

Oh, and bet way more on flop and turn... make it 3.5+ on the flop and 12 on the turn.

And I fold preflop.

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