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06-11-2015 , 03:21 PM
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For me the only reason there's any kind of potential decision OTR is bc the flop Cbet is too small. You can bet bigger on that texture and that will set up pot geometry for an easy all in OTR.

This forum is such a soap opera sometimes. This month especially, it would seem.
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06-11-2015 , 08:21 PM
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So if that's not what you meant, you believe he'd be allowed to be disrespectful if OP was on a higher level than him?

Also this is 2+2. You're in for a wild ride if you dislike disrespect lol.
Not even close.

And noted. Seems like there's little point in doing anything other than ignoring the pieces of **** on an internet forum.
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06-11-2015 , 08:23 PM
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There's plenty of good discussion to be had though, just don't get bogged down in the occasional jackassery.
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06-12-2015 , 10:13 AM
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For me the only reason there's any kind of potential decision OTR is bc the flop Cbet is too small. You can bet bigger on that texture and that will set up pot geometry for an easy all in OTR.

This forum is such a soap opera sometimes. This month especially, it would seem.
Somebody said that before, my bet size OTF and OTT was way to small - If I had bet bigger I'd have a much smaller bet size compared to the pot, and this situation wouldn't have occured. Thanks, and yeah haha, as someone said I shouldn't have shown the result
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06-12-2015 , 10:18 AM
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I'm not particularly active at the tables these days, but I'd imagine that the old mantra about micro stakes players making more calling mistakes than betting mistakes still holds true. If you've got a strong hand, bet it.

I don't hate just betting ~$2 on this particular river. If he's got the flush or straight, he'll put the rest in for us. If he's been calling down with a pair, he might call a small bet - or read us for weakness and try something aggressive.

We could have a more interesting discussion about checking the river if it had been the 3

Also: more on the flop. 3 way, wet board, one presumably fishy villain, two face cards for them to pair.
I totally agree with the typical player at 10nl or below makes alot more calling than betting mistakes. I don't agree with you that if the river was a brick card that checking would be good. I mean, the ace of spades hits almost everything that he'd call with OTF+OTT. A total brick would mean that he'd have lots of busted FD's and SD's that just would've checked behind.
Just as you said, the flop (and turn) bet should've been alot bigger, that was a big mistake of mine. Thanks
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06-12-2015 , 12:03 PM
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why bother commenting if you're not going to answer my question? The results doesn't matter, what I'm asking is it a good idea to check to induce bets from villain, lets say he has KJ or Js9s or AQ. When I CR he might be bad enough to call whereas If I had fired a third barrel he'd just call and I wouldn't have made as much profit.
OP, this is exactly the point mzbourg is making in a round about way. If your question is specific to your action OTR, your hand post should be edited to reflect that. Your hand should have ended with your first action on the river with a "Hero ?" notation or something similar. The results are irrelevant unless you're posting in the BBV forums, and really have no value (and in fact can hinder the advice posted).
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06-12-2015 , 05:31 PM
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OP, this is exactly the point mzbourg is making in a round about way. If your question is specific to your action OTR, your hand post should be edited to reflect that. Your hand should have ended with your first action on the river with a "Hero ?" notation or something similar. The results are irrelevant unless you're posting in the BBV forums, and really have no value (and in fact can hinder the advice posted).
I thought that it was obvious that this hand is a strategy question, I didn't even mentioned the result myself, plus, I wrote one sentence, asking about thoughts about checking to induce thin valuebets/bluffs. I just thought people were smart enough to realise it lol. I'll do what you said next time I post a strategy question for sure. Thanks!
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06-12-2015 , 10:53 PM
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56 posts of pure aids, legit can't believe people take this clown serious. The hand is so incredibly standard on this specific run out. Not jamming river would be absolutely criminal.

But once again, it's just a cry for attention and because you morons can't read he got more of that than he probably expected.

Well done.
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06-14-2015 , 01:39 AM
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OP, this is exactly the point mzbourg is making in a round about way.
The "roundabout way" in which he made his point is the whole problem here. There's no viable excuse for the way he chooses to address others.

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56 posts of pure aids, legit can't believe people take this clown serious.
The whole reason there's 56 posts of "pure aids" (seriously?) is because OP and I took offense to the fact that you think basic human decency has no place here.

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The hand is so incredibly standard on this specific run out. Not jamming river would be absolutely criminal.
Was that really so ****ing hard?
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06-14-2015 , 02:52 AM
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Horrible check vs someone w 50 vpip. Atrocious.
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06-17-2015 , 12:07 AM
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Nice check mate. Still thinking shoving is a much better line.



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