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Call or fold donk shove on river? Call or fold donk shove on river?

04-04-2020 , 08:55 AM
888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 2 players
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SB (Hero): $6.49 (325 bb)
BB: $1.83 (92 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with Q K
Hero raises to $0.06, BB 3-bets to $0.10, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.20) 2 7 5 (2 players)
BB bets $0.13, Hero calls $0.13

Turn: ($0.46) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25

River: ($0.96) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $1.35 (all-in), SB (Hero) folds

Total pot: $0.96 (Rake: $0.06)
BB wins $0.90

This was a very strange hand and I was not sure whether to call or fold the river. When we are heads up I am not really giving him a strong range when he min raises pre. I call his flop bet with my backdoor equity and to see if he continues on the turn when he checks turn I am fairly confident, I can't see him check calling turn with AK, so I am now supposing he has a hand like 99 or A10 or something like that. He completely took me by surprise when he donk shoved a 6 river, I considered again whether he would take this line with AK but I don't believe it. 89 crossed my mind but it's unlikely he is min raising to 10c pre. I block hands like KJ and he would most likely bet again on the turn instead of check calling, although I have seen fish start check calling their top pair. In the past I have also seen donk shoves like this with TT or 99 because they are too stubborn to fold but with the odds I was getting, i elected to fold, although i was VERY close to calling. I kind of just let the clock run down while I was thinking and it auto folded. In hindsight, Daniel Negraunu once said, 'when something doesn't make sense, i call' so I'm not sure what to make of this hand. I would love some advice and feedback! Much appreciated guys <3
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04-04-2020 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Fregjaj
888Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 2 players

Replay this hand on Upswing Poker



SB (Hero): $6.49 (325 bb)

BB: $1.83 (92 bb)



Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with QCall or fold donk shove on river? KCall or fold donk shove on river?

Hero raises to $0.06, BB 3-bets to $0.10, Hero calls $0.04



Flop: ($0.20) 2Call or fold donk shove on river? 7Call or fold donk shove on river? 5Call or fold donk shove on river? (2 players)

BB bets $0.13, Hero calls $0.13



Turn: ($0.46) KCall or fold donk shove on river? (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.25



River: ($0.96) 6Call or fold donk shove on river? (2 players)

BB bets $1.35 (all-in), SB (Hero) folds



Total pot: $0.96 (Rake: $0.06)

BB wins $0.90



This was a very strange hand and I was not sure whether to call or fold the river. When we are heads up I am not really giving him a strong range when he min raises pre. I call his flop bet with my backdoor equity and to see if he continues on the turn when he checks turn I am fairly confident, I can't see him check calling turn with AK, so I am now supposing he has a hand like 99 or A10 or something like that. He completely took me by surprise when he donk shoved a 6 river, I considered again whether he would take this line with AK but I don't believe it. 89 crossed my mind but it's unlikely he is min raising to 10c pre. I block hands like KJ and he would most likely bet again on the turn instead of check calling, although I have seen fish start check calling their top pair. In the past I have also seen donk shoves like this with TT or 99 because they are too stubborn to fold but with the odds I was getting, i elected to fold, although i was VERY close to calling. I kind of just let the clock run down while I was thinking and it auto folded. In hindsight, Daniel Negraunu once said, 'when something doesn't make sense, i call' so I'm not sure what to make of this hand. I would love some advice and feedback! Much appreciated guys <3


Do you have some stats on V? His line is superweird. Not sure what that minraise pre supposed to mean. I would say he could have been holding AA for instance and trying to provoke you to some action? I also was thinking about 89, but then I would suppose he would continue barrelling OTT as you have said. So 89 is not so likely and I dont see any reason him min raising pre with that.
The same apply to flush draws. He would probably continue barelling with that K ott.
I am probably folding as you did. I would put him on 66s or that AAs. Just weird..


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04-04-2020 , 03:43 PM
I think 76, 65, 66 make some kind of sense. also 34s. He may have AK or AA but a part of those CR turn I guess?. 89 would suprise me more (c/c turn?)
Minraise pre is strange whatever but I v seen people doing that with almost any two.

Overall (and without more read/stat) I still call because its a drawy board and we are have near the top of our perceived range. He can sometimes donk-value worst, sometimes expect us to fold a lot.
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