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10-16-2008 , 04:49 PM

recallme

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Sb is a huge fish, he played 90/25 until this point over 35 hands and was very weak all the way.
Bu is a good 21/14 and a decent reg aswell as BB who has a 3bet rate of 5.

Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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UTG: $976.00
Hero (MP): $2055.00
CO: $1219.00
BTN: $1771.00
SB: $1354.35
BB: $2690.25

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is MP with A

1 fold, Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, BTN calls $35, SB calls $30, BB raises to $175

Should i try to hold the Fish in the pot or 4bet it to get it HU vs the BB ?

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10-16-2008 , 05:09 PM

josh87

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How old are you?

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10-16-2008 , 05:12 PM

Bigfoot

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What? Easy re-raise here. You either want to get this pot HU on the flop or hope BB has something he's willing to get AI PF with. Calling is bad because you're going to make it 4 way with 2 other deep stacks in the hand and a very large pot on the flop.

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10-16-2008 , 05:51 PM

I rebluff you

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minraise

also its funny fish is asking if he should keep fish in the pot or pop for the shark

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10-16-2008 , 05:55 PM

captainwacky

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calllllllllll

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10-16-2008 , 05:59 PM

ihearthawrilenko

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is there any way we could request that recallme post more hands? i feel like he really doesn't post enough.

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10-16-2008 , 06:03 PM

mythrilfox

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agree w/ call, if the fish were less fishy i could see reraising

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10-16-2008 , 06:25 PM

Praetor

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I definitely 4 bet because of effective stacks with the non ******s

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10-16-2008 , 06:31 PM

billybeartku

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lol recallme, could u stop posting?

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10-16-2008 , 06:37 PM

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b33nz

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not to be rude, but if you're not sure how to play this then chances are you're not ready to play 5/10. unless this post is a level all by itself :O

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10-16-2008 , 06:46 PM

#11

recallme

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I am ready to play NL2k hehe. Did you realize the different answewrs of 4bet and call in this thread

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10-16-2008 , 06:54 PM

#12

b33nz

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i think anyone who said call was trying to level you or are terrible themselves, lol.

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10-16-2008 , 07:04 PM

#13

borko13

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stackes are to deep to just call and let 4 people into the pot, i think small 4 bet is very good option against fish and he can even see it as a weakness and push! but if u had 100 bb or less i think just calling is sometimes good and can earn lots of money

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10-16-2008 , 07:05 PM

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HustlerLA

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There are definite benefits of calling allowing the fish to come in, but we arent going to be thrilled playing our hand 4way with decent stacks left against the regs. Plus as you said, BB is tight 3better so it is likely he has a hand that he will felt. So just repop it

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10-16-2008 , 07:29 PM

#15

Oftegal

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If the fish is weak as you say, there is noe way to let him in. Only time its ok to call is if the fish is a huge station who will stack of very light post flop.

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10-17-2008 , 04:29 AM

#16

klumpskaft

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lol always a flatcall btn gonna foldout soooooooooooooooooooooo much in his range this deep since his range is gonna be wider than usual to use position on u this deep to his advantage.

b33 u seem to suck.

to not take the risk of being outflopped 1/5 times when neither of BU SB is obviously calling 100 % to give a 95/x player a chance to flop something is sooo obviously bad

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10-17-2008 , 04:32 AM

#17

Darkfolder

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b33nz, just shut the **** up.

Calling is obv fine..

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10-17-2008 , 05:09 AM

#18

Bigfoot

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Originally Posted by klumpskaft

lol always a flatcall btn gonna foldout soooooooooooooooooooooo much in his range this deep since his range is gonna be wider than usual to use position on u this deep to his advantage.

Button is ridiculously bad if he folds pretty much anything he called with pf for $140 more. The pot is going to be big (regardless of if the fish in the SB calls, which he almost certainly will) and he will have position on everyone.

He's calling $140 more to see a flop with a 4-way pot that will be $700 and he'll have $1500+ behind to play w/ two other deep stacks. Even ignoring the immediate odds (when considering the SB fish will almost certainly call), his implied odds are huge.

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10-18-2008 , 03:48 AM

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recallme

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Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $976.00
Hero (MP): $2055.00
CO: $1219.00
BTN: $1771.00
SB: $1354.35
BB: $2690.25

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is MP with A

1 fold, Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, BTN calls $35, SB calls $30, BB raises to $175, Hero calls $140, BTN calls $140, 1 fold

Flop: ($560.00) 9

(3 players)
BB checks,

After BTn calls i felt right now quite bad. Then this flop came. Should i bet/call or b/f?

In hindsight i think calling was a mistake because i could have very well get it in preflop vs BB.

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10-18-2008 , 04:17 AM

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Bigfoot

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Originally Posted by recallme

After BTn calls i felt right now quite bad. Then this flop came. Should i bet/call or b/f?

In hindsight i think calling was a mistake because i could have very well get it in preflop vs BB.

Well you under repped your hand like you wanted, so why exactly are you considering bet/folding it. The only time you can really consider that is if you bet, btn shoves and BB calls.

If you bet and BTN shoves, BB folds, you have to call because you under repped your hand so much. If you bet, BTN folds and BB shoves you have to call as well.

To be honest I can't really figure out what you expected BTN to do after you called the re-raise. Did you think there was a good chance he would fold? If he's competent he should be calling with almost everything that he called your initial open with.

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10-18-2008 , 05:32 AM

#21

wtf5

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dont feed the recallme

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10-18-2008 , 05:34 AM

#22

theplux

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Now get it in on the flop, uhuh.

id rather 4b cause the donk will call anyway.

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