Bottom set fold
11-05-2013
, 06:09 PM
Villain - 13/3, raise flop 8% (1/13) before the hand.
Knowing how nitty he is I was really confused. The board's dry, (I missed that he limped/call), so I didn't know what to do OTF. Which lead to the worst decision - calling.
Do I fold here?
Knowing how nitty he is I was really confused. The board's dry, (I missed that he limped/call), so I didn't know what to do OTF. Which lead to the worst decision - calling.
Do I fold here?
IPoker, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
UTG+2: $12.84 (128.4 bb)
MP1: $10.02 (100.2 bb)
MP2: $6.14 (61.4 bb)
MP3: $18.28 (182.8 bb)
CO: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
BTN: $3.20 (32 bb)
SB: $14.70 (147 bb)
Hero (BB): $15.85 (158.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 3
3
UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 raises to $0.40, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG+2 calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.65) J 7
3
(4 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG+2 raises to $2.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.20
Turn: ($6.45) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.51, UTG+2 raises to $9.02, Hero raises to $13.05, UTG+2 calls $1.02 and is all-in
River: ($26.53) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
UTG+2: $12.84 (128.4 bb)
MP1: $10.02 (100.2 bb)
MP2: $6.14 (61.4 bb)
MP3: $18.28 (182.8 bb)
CO: $11.38 (113.8 bb)
BTN: $3.20 (32 bb)
SB: $14.70 (147 bb)
Hero (BB): $15.85 (158.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 3
3UTG+2 calls $0.10, MP1 raises to $0.40, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.40, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG+2 calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.65) J
7 3 (4 players)Hero bets $1.20, UTG+2 raises to $2.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.20
Turn: ($6.45) 5
(2 players)Hero bets $4.51, UTG+2 raises to $9.02, Hero raises to $13.05, UTG+2 calls $1.02 and is all-in
River: ($26.53) 7
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
11-07-2013
, 11:24 AM
Quote:
I like the flop lead here actually, but I'm fine with a check as well.
After that, we're against the most passive player ever (over a decent enough sample size), we're multiway, there are zero draws, and he limp-called pre. I kinda think flop is actually a puke fold. His range is so heavily weighted to 77 that we can't really call down profitably. The only exception to that would be if you have a stat that says he never raises pre in EP, in which case this could be an overpair, so calling down would be fine. But if he does, we can eliminate QQ+, and it's a fold otf.
After that, we're against the most passive player ever (over a decent enough sample size), we're multiway, there are zero draws, and he limp-called pre. I kinda think flop is actually a puke fold. His range is so heavily weighted to 77 that we can't really call down profitably. The only exception to that would be if you have a stat that says he never raises pre in EP, in which case this could be an overpair, so calling down would be fine. But if he does, we can eliminate QQ+, and it's a fold otf.
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11-07-2013
, 12:28 PM
Quote:
I obviously thank anyone who wrote but for me your answer probably tops everything. I absolutely agree with everything you said and, as you put it, puke fold OTF should have been my action. It's my problem though, due to inexperience i tend to through my plan out of the window (OTF I decided to call and re-evaluate and OTT I though, well, maybe he doesn't have a set, I can't fold). Which I know is stupid but I'm working on it .
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In short, you'd be better off just trying to stack off every set ever as a general rule than trying to find spots to hero fold them. Basically, don't let experiences like this one cause you to nit up and lose value against most other player types.