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Bluff Spewy at 25 NL? Bluff Spewy at 25 NL?

06-29-2010 , 12:39 AM
So I am trying to work on the bluffing aspect of my game, and a hand came up earlier that I would like some input on.

I am on the button with K-10 suited, and the CO raises to .75 after no one limps-- I call and the blinds fold

Flop: The flop is A-8-3, two clubs (I don't have clubs)--The villain leads here for .75, which is less than half pot and to me indicates either weakness of something super strong (maybe AA)-- I decide to float here with the intention of betting the villain out on the turn

Turn: Turn is the Q, and villain again bets .75, this time about a 1/4 pot bet-- This bet again indicates weakness, super strength, or maybe something like a weak ace, but I think that is somewhat discredited as he was the original raiser (A7 and below)-- I decide to raise his bet to 2.50, which looking back might not be the best sizing but I am basically representing a good ace here thinking he will fold a majority of his range. He doesn't, and elects to call

River: River is an offsuit 7, meaning the club flush didn't hit. Villain checks after about 5 seconds, and I decide to ship my remaining stack (About 3/4 pot at this point)-- My thought process in doing this is that I feel there is a decent shot villain had a FD here, as I can't think of many hands that make such small bets, call the raise on the turn, and check river. I figure he'll show up with a good A some of the time, but I feel a Q, a draw, and some weak aces will most likely fold to my bet so I go for the triple barrel.

Villain ended up calling with TT and winning. At the time I was very upset and thought he made an awful call, but looking back I can't decide if he was just a bad player or maybe he actually played it well. Input on everything is much appreciated.
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06-29-2010 , 03:17 AM
fold pre, buy in full, flop and turn are fine i guess but i'd rather raise the flop bet and bet turn than float, raise and ship. Though against a station it's spew to bet after he calls the raise
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06-29-2010 , 03:35 AM
can u just put it in a converter? or was it live?
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06-29-2010 , 10:34 AM
This hand happened a little bit ago and I don't have PTR so I can't convert it
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06-29-2010 , 10:43 AM
If you think his range will contain a lot of flushdraws, then check back the river because you have showdown value.
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06-29-2010 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ivantheterbl
Villain ended up calling with TT and winning. At the time I was very upset and thought he made an awful call, but looking back I can't decide if he was just a bad player
That´s why you should be working on getting the most value you can, not on bluffing, at 25NL
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06-29-2010 , 01:34 PM
Your line is not a good bluffing line. Your turn raise reps a narrow range because a lot of the time your raising strong hands on the flop. If villain can fold 1-pair hands on the turn it might be ok but this is just not the case very often. Even solid regs have trouble folding AK/AQ on this turn

Give up on the river when he b/c the turn. He wouldn't b/c turn if he was planning to just c/f the river. Shoving is kind of spewy too, its a huge overbet. The fact that villain called TT is pretty lol, but it also is a flag that should tell you that you probably didn't know enough about this villain to try a big bluff like this.

Work on your ABC-standard game and then incorporate bluffing, don't try to force bluffing into your game in spots like this just because you think you have to
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