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03-02-2011 , 07:42 AM
villain is 21/14/2/fcb 47/ftcb 38/frcb 29 over 6.9k hands

is this an easy shove or when he calls turn should i reconsider?

also what do you think villains range is when he flats the turn?

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CO: $17.10
Hero (BTN): $56.65
SB: $82.65
BB: $50.00
UTG: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 9 J
UTG raises to $1.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25

Flop: ($7.00) 4 8 T (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $5.40, SB folds, BB calls $5.40, UTG folds

Turn: ($17.80) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12.50, BB calls $12.50

River: ($42.80) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero?
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03-02-2011 , 08:02 AM
You should be able to give us more details after 6.9K hands. If you have no reads (which you really should) some showdown stats would be useful
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03-02-2011 , 08:29 AM
pre is ok? I consider it's not a good idea of calling a rise from tight UTG with 9cJc
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03-02-2011 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NLVictim
You should be able to give us more details after 6.9K hands. If you have no reads (which you really should) some showdown stats would be useful
WTS 28
W$SD 44
WON WSF 42

sorry no reads im a shut my eyes and feel player.
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03-02-2011 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dontsoff
pre is ok? I consider it's not a good idea of calling a rise from tight UTG with 9cJc
possibly a bit loose but utg was playing 32/30 and i felt i had a decent edge over him post flop.
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03-02-2011 , 08:32 AM
Yup fire away
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03-02-2011 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by african princee
possibly a bit loose but utg was playing 32/30 and i felt i had a decent edge over him post flop.
in this way shove
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03-02-2011 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by african princee
WTS 28
W$SD 44

WON WSF 42

sorry no reads im a shut my eyes and feel player.
these number are bad, espesh w$sd i really doubt he's winning.

having said that his range looks really week here but the stats say he's likely to call. this is a good spot vs a nittier type as they'll fold out JJ 10's and some weaker aces though i think but against this check guy ill check back.

btw i dont know why people are advocating shoving, its simple, how to exploit a player with these showdown stats =?
Spoiler:
value bet thinner
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03-02-2011 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fearofaces
these number are bad, espesh w$sd i really doubt he's winning.

having said that his range looks really week here but the stats say he's likely to call. this is a good spot vs a nittier type as they'll fold out JJ 10's and some weaker aces though i think but against this check guy ill check back.

btw i dont know why people are advocating shoving, its simple, how to exploit a player with these showdown stats =?
Spoiler:
value bet thinner
i still don't think he's bad enough to call 3 barrells in a multiway pot with 2ndP. we rep huge strength and he would be thinking enough to realise that.
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03-02-2011 , 06:05 PM
i might be wrong but i dont think his wtsd stats are a huge factor in this hand, the question is whats his range and can it stand 3 barrells on this board?
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03-02-2011 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dontsoff
in this way shove
so because utg was playing loose i should shove the river vs bb? okie dokie
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03-02-2011 , 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLVictim
You should be able to give us more details after 6.9K hands. If you have no reads (which you really should) some showdown stats would be useful
love how you flame me for not having stats and reads and when i provide them you still can't provide insight on the hand lol
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03-02-2011 , 07:33 PM
he has a lot of 10x, some FD's, maybe some worse straight draws, or pair + combo draw.. the only thing i would worry about is him catching TP on the turn with his NFD and calling your river shove as your pretty much only rep a boat.. that being said i don't think shoving is terrible
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03-02-2011 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by african princee
i might be wrong but i dont think his wtsd stats are a huge factor in this hand, the question is whats his range and can it stand 3 barrells on this board?
this is a good point, i was speaking just generally though.

btw im suprised no one thinks he cant have ax of spades, makes a lot of sense to me
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