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01-19-2008 , 01:42 AM
Full Tilt Poker $3.00/$6.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $591.00
SB: $854.15
BB: $730.95
UTG: $573.00
MP: $262.00
Hero (CO): $665.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 3 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, BB calls $15

Flop: ($45.00) K A T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $34, BB calls $34

Turn: ($113.00) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($113.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $72, Hero raises to $285


Full Tilt Poker $3.00/$6.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $591.00
SB: $854.15
BB: $730.95
UTG: $573.00
MP: $262.00
Hero (CO): $665.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 3 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $21, 2 folds, BB calls $15

Flop: ($45.00) K A T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $34, BB calls $34

Turn: ($113.00) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($113.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $72, Hero raises to $285


vs 23/16/4
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01-19-2008 , 01:48 AM
ehh i think your hand looks like exactly what it is, a busted draw that opted for the free card on the turn and now wants to try and push him out on the river. you're repping exactly AK or KK here and i just don't think i'd buy it if i were vilian. you raise pretty big so he's gotta fold a ton here, probably about 60% of the time for this to be profitable; i doubt he folds nearly that much in this spot, especially when his most liekly holding is an ace. I don't think he really bluffs this river ever as it is a terrible spot to bluff considering that all the draws missed and you'll often be playing fro pot control/pick off a bluff w/ this turn and river line on a pretty scary board, so this bet is going to be a K or A the vast majority of the time; i doubt he's folding even a king here if he has any handreading skills. so in other words, terrible spot for this raise
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01-19-2008 , 02:00 AM
pretty bad. You'll get called with a K or greater with anyone who can read hands at all.
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01-19-2008 , 02:02 AM
...I prob check behind here with AA, KK, AK, AT TT QJ
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01-19-2008 , 02:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheer
...I prob check behind here with AA, KK, AK, AT TT QJ
this is usually a leak IMO and doesn't change my opinion on the bluff.
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01-19-2008 , 03:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheer
...I prob check behind here with AA, KK, AK, AT TT QJ
because you want to keep the pot small when you turn a full house?
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01-19-2008 , 06:31 AM
if i was villain i'd consider folding because i wouldnt think anyone would be dumb enough to pull a bluff here, but i'd always click call.
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01-19-2008 , 06:57 AM
i believe people like you when you say you would check behind here with X Y and Z...and i also believe that you get paid on teh river by doing it (problem is i doubt your avg villain is aware of this kind of info)

i think unknown nailed this one...almost everyone and their mom is calling this range pretty liberally so i dont like the first hand but the second one is meh imo
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