Bluff line; is bluff size, board and opponent type good for this?
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 303
In this scenario I had villain as very quite tight. He latted me from the button and I had tight image too which is interesting to note.
Hero - utg2 - 100bb
villain- co - 96bb
Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J A
Hero raises to $0.06, 3 folds, CO calls $0.06, 3 folds
Flop: ($0.15) K 6 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.07, CO calls $0.07
Turn: ($0.29) J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.14, CO calls $0.14
River: ($0.57) T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.62, CO folds
I bet, of course, and he flats…ok. The turn brings more outs, so I wait a little longer and half bet again. He calls. Now where I’m at I’ve got him on the best hand but not a monster, so I figured that with the Ten falling you had a REALLY ugly board and that given that he was acting tight, and given that I’d been acting tight, plus given that he has just passively called, I figured that overbetting the pot would give me good odds a fold. Is there anything I’ve missed here?
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 40
If you want to get a fold I think overbetting the pot is the best way, but you don't really represent anything on this board.
You've bet less than 1/2 pot on both flop and turn which doesn't really suggest a monster and by the turn he looks like he has a k. Not sure if there was a flush out there that was completed which may scare him off.
I think your line looks very fishy and you're narrowing your range to like aq only which may take this line. He may have kj or k10 and not be folding. I think in this case you did get a better hand to fold I think but given you have no idea how passive he is normally whether he would flat until the river with a monster, I think you risk a lot for only a small reward.
I prefer a check on the turn, you have improved to a hand with showdown value that may be ahead. Were you value betting or bluffing the turn. After a call on the flop he doesn't necessarily have to have top pair but after the call on the turn i think it is top pair or better or a flush draw.
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Yeah turn was a bet for value and I figured I might have a good bluff at the end.
I thought the board might be giving me some more value here for a bluff but I definitely thought that it was a bit risky on a half read of villain.
Fair point. Are there books or something that show some good spots to do this sort of thing?
Join Date: May 2005
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Generally you want to bluff in spots where your range gets stronger, and his range gets weaker. Ideally with hands where you block some of his value hands as well, or where you've picked up equity along the way as a back up. This pretty much misses all of those criteria.
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Ok. So then it would have made sense to bluff the turn, because now I had added equity? And maybe bet 2/3 the pot or something...
As or figuring out where range gets stronger vs weaker, that's sort of what I was going for here, i looked at equilab I thought the ten, the flushed board, even the King on the flop can still hit my range/neutralises his range to some extent, right?
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You didn't mention flushes in your post, so I don't know where the flush hits?
The main issue here is that strong hands which call on the flop probably aren't folding on the river KQ, 6x etc.
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Yeah one of the K's C's was Suited.
Ok so the main point is though that it's pretty much worth their equity betting once they've already called turn if theyre 2p or trip x or whatever.
That makes sense, thanks.