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08-24-2018 , 01:17 PM
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NL Holdem $0.10(BB)
SB ($17.45) [VPIP: 25.6% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 41.3% | 3-Bet: 8.8% | Hands: 3622]
BB ($19.17) [VPIP: 33.3% | PFR: 24.8% | AGG: 16.4% | 3-Bet: 13.6% | Hands: 112]
UTG ($11.17) [VPIP: 28.3% | PFR: 19.1% | AGG: 31.4% | 3-Bet: 9.2% | Hands: 175]
HERO ($10.47) [VPIP: 29.8% | PFR: 24% | AGG: 30.8% | 3-Bet: 10.4% | Hands: 26888]
CO ($7.52) [VPIP: 18.8% | PFR: 12.5% | AGG: 25% | 3-Bet: 4.3% | Hands: 50]
BTN ($10.44) [VPIP: 24.6% | PFR: 18.7% | AGG: 38.1% | 3-Bet: 8.7% | Hands: 3994]

Dealt to Hero: A K

UTG Raises To $0.28, HERO Raises To $0.99, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $0.71

Hero SPR on Flop: [4.45 effective]
Flop ($2.13): 2 Q A
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $1.10 (Rem. Stack: 8.38), UTG Calls $1.10 (Rem. Stack: 9.08)

Turn ($4.33): 2 Q A Q
UTG Checks, HERO Checks

River ($4.33): 2 Q A Q 4
UTG Bets $2.06 (Rem. Stack: 7.02), HERO Raises To $4.12 (Rem. Stack: 4.26), UTG Raises To $9.08 (allin), HERO Calls $4.26 (allin)
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08-24-2018 , 03:40 PM
Probably pray and call it. We block AQ but on the other hand would he bet jam with Jc or lower? :/
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08-24-2018 , 03:43 PM
I don`t like the minraise OTR just shove if he calls a minraise with worse, he also calls a shove and you wouldn`t bluff like this ever. Rest seems fine imo.
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08-24-2018 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Asatorholdem
I don`t like the minraise OTR just shove if he calls a minraise with worse, he also calls a shove and you wouldn`t bluff like this ever. Rest seems fine imo.
I feel like J and T would make a crying call to a minraise but fold to a shove, no?
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08-24-2018 , 03:53 PM
what do we expect to get value from on the river?

what Jc Tc do you think villain gets to the river with?
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08-24-2018 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sinnaJ
what do we expect to get value from on the river?

what Jc Tc do you think villain gets to the river with?
i thought maybe lower flushs like T9cc/89cc/78cc/67cc/65cc
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08-24-2018 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sinnaJ
what do we expect to get value from on the river?

what Jc Tc do you think villain gets to the river with?
AxJ or AxT if he's bad also only 4 combos of AQ also TxT JxJ could play like this
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08-24-2018 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
AxJ or AxT if he's bad also only 4 combos of AQ also TxT JxJ could play like this
This is a spot where you need solid enough reads to be sure that someone both bets those hands often enough AND calls a raise with them in order to do it. People bad enough to call the raise typically aren't aggro enough to bet the Jc anyway.

Easy fold now.
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08-24-2018 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
This is a spot where you need solid enough reads to be sure that someone both bets those hands often enough AND calls a raise with them in order to do it. People bad enough to call the raise typically aren't aggro enough to bet the Jc anyway.

Easy fold now.
easy fold? i have to be right like ~20% of the time.
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08-24-2018 , 05:58 PM
Without specific info vil. Calls wide to river raises just call. Also bet turn
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08-24-2018 , 06:10 PM
why dont we bet turn?
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08-24-2018 , 06:11 PM
I always x fl here

I like the river minr and disagree that Jc/Tc hands will call a shove.
I'd happily fold to the jam.
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08-24-2018 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
easy fold? i have to be right like ~20% of the time.
And yet still.
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08-24-2018 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
easy fold? i have to be right like ~20% of the time.
You really think you win 20% of the time. Lol. Also 20% is break even so you probably want to be good 30% not 0%. What did villian have anyway QQ?
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08-24-2018 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
Without specific info vil. Calls wide to river raises just call. Also bet turn
Why would I bet turn when the Q is bad for my range?
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08-24-2018 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I always x fl here

I like the river minr and disagree that Jc/Tc hands will call a shove.
I'd happily fold to the jam.
yeah i think they fold to a shove as well.

Need to work on folding in spots like this but my odds were just so good
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08-24-2018 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
You really think you win 20% of the time. Lol. Also 20% is break even so you probably want to be good 30% not 0%. What did villian have anyway QQ?
AQs
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08-24-2018 , 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Why would I bet turn when the Q is bad for my range?
How is the queen bad for your range? I think it's good for your range and takes away AQ combos from villian. Villian had QQ didnt he.
Oops didnt see your post giving villians hand.

Last edited by NutJob72; 08-24-2018 at 06:38 PM. Reason: Not paying attention
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08-24-2018 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
How is the queen bad for your range? I think it's good for your range and takes away AQ combos from villian. Villian had QQ didnt he.
Oops didnt see your post giving villians hand.
because im checking a lot of Qx on the flop
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08-24-2018 , 07:28 PM
With my range, I think I only bet QQ and A2s at 100% frequency on the flop. I'm definitely checking back some AK, and the combos with the Kc blocker seem logical check backs to me. There's no value to be gained from FDs (villain hardly has any) or JJ-88 (which should just fold to a c-bet).
As played, just call the river. Flushes don't beat quads or boats, and nothing worse should call your raise.
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08-24-2018 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
because im checking a lot of Qx on the flop
What? What Q are in your 3bet range that your checking here. Also why would you check a Q in a 3! Pot when its checked to you IP.
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08-24-2018 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
What? What Q are in your 3bet range that your checking here. Also why would you check a Q in a 3! Pot when its checked to you IP.
I guess there's not too many Qs in either of our ranges to matter too much but I don't see much worse hands calling a turn and river bet. I'd rather get my value on the river then be put in a tough spot on the turn if he raises
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08-24-2018 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
I guess there's not too many Qs in either of our ranges to matter too much but I don't see much worse hands calling a turn and river bet. I'd rather get my value on the river then be put in a tough spot on the turn if he raises
That's my point if you bet turn and get raised it's not really a tough spot. Its nl2 if you get c/r hes got it unless you have history to tell you different.
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08-24-2018 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
That's my point if you bet turn and get raised it's not really a tough spot. Its nl2 if you get c/r hes got it unless you have history to tell you different.
There's no value to be had. I'm only getting 2 streets with this hand, and if I'm behind I lose less if I use bet/chk/bet line. Also its 10nl
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08-25-2018 , 02:15 PM
I don't understand how you lose less checking the turn you bet full to turn you never hit the flush on the river and end up paying off.
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