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Is betting the river too thin...? Is betting the river too thin...?

03-21-2008 , 09:02 AM
...and is checking it back just fine?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $9.90
MP: $10.55
Hero (CO): $13.85
BTN: $1.65
SB: $22.75
BB: $11.05

Pre-Flop: A K dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, BTN calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, BB folds

Flop: ($1.15) K A 4 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.55) 3 (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.30, BTN calls $0.50 and is All-In, SB calls $2.30

River: ($8.65) 4 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)
SB checks, Hero checks

SB is a station.
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03-21-2008 , 09:18 AM
make a valubet.he will call with any ace beacause the king plays as the kicker.problem though is,when he shoves over your valuebet you most likely have to fold
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03-21-2008 , 09:24 AM
He checked... you bet.
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03-21-2008 , 09:45 AM
How is this even sort of thin? This is a good solid value bet situation. Just cause a 3rd heart gets there on the river doesn't mean you're automatically beat. Checking behind is bad here.
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03-21-2008 , 10:01 AM
Ok so are we valuebetting AQ=A2 or is AK the weakest hand we are valuebetting?

And what size is best, like $4.50?
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03-21-2008 , 10:02 AM
I wouldn't vbet AQ for the same reason I vbet AK, because people will call to chop almost always - if that makes sense.
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03-21-2008 , 10:17 AM
Yah it does; Ok I've identified a leak. I have to valuebet better.

What do you think about my bet sizing on the flop and turn, should I bet more?

He turned over QT fwiw, but I understand that the ratio of (hands that call and I beat)-(hands that call or raise and beat me) will be higher than 1-1 vs. this opponent, making it a +EV bet/fold. Is this mathematical definition correct?
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03-21-2008 , 10:32 AM
Most of the time villain is not checking a flush here. I definitely vb to get action from an lower A that now thinks youre chopping
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03-21-2008 , 10:34 AM
jfc BET BET BET BETE TETETETETETEEEEE
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03-21-2008 , 11:46 AM
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He checked... you bet.
qft
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03-21-2008 , 11:49 AM
Are you serial?
How on earth can this spot be too thin. You got top 2 and you're playing NL10. He'll call with any ace there, maybe even a king. Bet/fold this river 100% of the time, get value from those hands.

In this case he had a flush or a 4 and u lost, so be it
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03-21-2008 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Blch17

What do you think about my bet sizing on the flop and turn, should I bet more?
Bet that turn harder imo. Probably would go $1 on the flop too.
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