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[BB vs IP Raiser SRP]Does the micro pool overbluff or are they value heavy when they probe turn [BB vs IP Raiser SRP]Does the micro pool overbluff or are they value heavy when they probe turn

06-18-2020 , 12:45 AM
Thoughts?
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06-18-2020 , 12:58 AM
Good regs over bluff
Nitty regs under bluff

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD Poker Tracking Software

NL Holdem 0.50(BB)
HERO ($60) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 21.5% | AGG: 34.4% | Flop Agg: 40.2% | Turn Agg: 27.4% | River Agg: 31.3% | 3-Bet: 10.9% | 4-Bet: 16.2% | Hands: 259220]
SB ($62.82) [VPIP: 18.1% | PFR: 14.7% | AGG: 33.5% | Hands: 1326]
BB ($61.29) [VPIP: 26.1% | PFR: 18.2% | AGG: 42.4% | Flop Agg: 36.6% | Turn Agg: 49% | River Agg: 46.9% | 3-Bet: 5.8% | 4-Bet: 20% | Cold Call: 17.3% | Hands: 477]
UTG ($79.04) [VPIP: 25.8% | PFR: 25.8% | AGG: 50% | Hands: 31]
HJ ($60) [VPIP: 31.7% | PFR: 19.8% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 104]
CO ($37.85) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 8.8% | AGG: 25% | Hands: 82]

Dealt to Hero: A K

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Folds, HERO Raises To $1.25, SB Folds, BB Calls $0.75

Hero SPR on Flop: [21.36 effective]
Flop ($2.75): T 7 9
BB Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($2.75): T 7 9 T
BB Bets $1.62 (Rem. Stack: $58.42), HERO Calls $1.62 (Rem. Stack: $57.13)

River ($5.99): T 7 9 T 2
BB Bets $8.74 (Rem. Stack: $49.68), HERO Calls $8.74 (Rem. Stack: $48.39)

Spoiler:

BB shows: K Q

HERO wins: $22.30
[BB vs IP Raiser SRP]Does the micro pool overbluff or are they value heavy when they probe turn Quote
06-18-2020 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Good regs over bluff
Nitty regs under bluff
What about non regs
[BB vs IP Raiser SRP]Does the micro pool overbluff or are they value heavy when they probe turn Quote
06-18-2020 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
What about non regs
Non regs are just fish so they don't even probably know what a probe is - under bluff.

You can add the turn probe stat to your HUD. It helps in identifying stuff like this.
[BB vs IP Raiser SRP]Does the micro pool overbluff or are they value heavy when they probe turn Quote
06-18-2020 , 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Non regs are just fish so they don't even probably know what a probe is - under bluff.

You can add the turn probe stat to your HUD. It helps in identifying stuff like this.
I'm playing 25z on ignition now and don't have HUD

The pool is definitely probing too much (but unclear whether with "value" hands or bluffs), and I saw a lot of times they probe for pot size
[BB vs IP Raiser SRP]Does the micro pool overbluff or are they value heavy when they probe turn Quote
06-18-2020 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
I'm playing 25z on ignition now and don't have HUD

The pool is definitely probing too much (but unclear whether with "value" hands or bluffs), and I saw a lot of times they probe for pot size
Oh yeah no HUD on ignition I forgot. Well you can exploit them by just checking back stronger hands OTF or over c-betting.

Start taking them to parts of the game tree they don't know like raising turn probes. Then they will have no clue what to do.
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06-18-2020 , 01:33 AM
check is perceived as weakness esp when IP PFR doesn't cbet - turn probe is almost automatic

next time - raise the probe with air, draw and nuts (in that order) and see how they react and adjust accordingly
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06-18-2020 , 01:53 AM
Raising turn probes isn't a thing really on many boards at any significant frequency - but as an exploit would you say on a board like J629 or whatever, that checking back flop with something like QJ, then raise/folding a turn probe (to what size?) and barreling safe rivers is a good exploit?

Last edited by kvnd; 06-18-2020 at 01:58 AM.
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06-18-2020 , 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kvnd
Raising turn probes isn't a thing really on many boards at any significant frequency - but as an exploit would you say on a board like J629 or whatever, that checking back flop with something like QJ, then raise/folding a turn probe (to what size?) and barreling safe rivers is a good exploit?
I'd rather just range cbet that board.

BTNvsBB I'd rather X back monsters like 85s/75s/55 on 875r and raise safe turns. That is also a solver approved line. You'll notice solvers don't always cbet the lowest set on these boards with a straight at 100% frequency but will always cbet the higher ones.

Or we could start Xing back boards where BB should not have turn probes and trap him. i.e. UTGvsBB Q72r where the turn is an Ace/King/Jack. BB should almost never probe this turn but he probably doesn't know that. We can get to this turn with a very strong range since even hands as strong as AQ should be checked back at some frequency.

Just a couple spots I've studied but there's so many more you could figure out.
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06-18-2020 , 06:10 AM
You can use a HUD on Ignition/Bovada.
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06-18-2020 , 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kvnd

The pool is definitely probing too much (but unclear whether with "value" hands or bluffs), and I saw a lot of times they probe for pot size
value but too weak / merged
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