I think i messed up this hand on the turn.

PF probably wasn't that great. I was mostly trying to get info with the 3 bet. He didn't seem to want to play for stacks since he didn't raise that big and then just called my 3 bet.

I feel like if I would have made a big raise or maybe shipped the turn I could have taken it down.

What do you guys think about his all in on the river? Didn't really feel like a flush draw on the turn for villain IMO... I feel like he was just trying to rep the flush to get me off the hand on the river...

Merge - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 102.1 BB (VPIP: 31.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 141)
MP: 140.5 BB (VPIP: 23.39, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.73, Hands: 297)
Hero (CO): 109.5 BB
BTN: 90.1 BB (VPIP: 37.84, PFR: 9.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 111)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 22.36, PFR: 13.38, 3Bet Preflop: 6.32, Hands: 581)
BB: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 17.74, PFR: 12.97, 3Bet Preflop: 9.62, Hands: 189)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T K

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.8 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.8 BB

Flop: (6.1 BB, 2 players) 3 5 K
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero raises to 27 BB, BB calls 15 BB

Turn: (60.1 BB, 2 players) Q
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (60.1 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 76.7 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 56.8 BB

Why are you raising the flop? What worse hand is calling you or what better hand is folding?

Pre is fine. Turn check is fine too, but I think a bet would be alright as well. There's a few possible draws out there, although club draws do seem unlikely.

I don't see a whole lot of bluffs here. Maybe a couple of worse pairs, but I feel most hands villain would have here have you beat.

The raise on the flop probably wasn't the best idea but I feel that if villain just calls that makes it less likely I am up against 2 pairs or trips and it lets me know that it will be easier to take the pot away on a later street by repping a huge hand on turn or river (if the board allows).

As far as him having me beat, there is no doubt in my mind that he had me beat... I just don't think that he knew that. I think he thought he was beat and decided to use the 3rd club on the river as a scare card...

Your reasoning is understandable, but on this dry of a board, I think it's very unlikely a competent villain is going to 4bet either two pair or a set, that would basically be putting their hand face up. I honestly think anything villain is calling that flop 3bet with, they're not folding on almost any runout.

Everything you say sounds like extreme fancy play syndrome and massively levelling yourself.

You think he raised flop and called a 3-bet in order to rep backdoor flushes?

You 3-bet top pair so that you could rep huge on later streets, and then checked down.

It sounds like you're rationalising that you were just clicking buttons.

+1, overthinking way too much start to finish on this one

I like delayed cbet here. Otherwise you put yourself into a akward spot on river when he calls down flop and turn.

Stop raising for information

Yes, hence the title of the post. I went into the turn with a plan but then I chickened out and did not execute.

I just wanted to see how crappy everyone thought my plan was to begin with (regardless if I executed it all the way thru or not).

From the responses... apparently pretty damn crappy...

Have to agree.

Pre is good.

Flop bet is good.

3-bet on flop is bad.

As played I fold river also.

I get that. What I'm getting at is that your thoughts are a little incoherent and you don't provide much reason for them.

Think about his flop raising range a bit. What parts of it do you do better against by: calling, raising, or folding?

Unless he's raising better top pairs (which he might but I wouldn't expect it) it's going to be 33/55/bluffs like A4/A2/67/maybe K5s/K3s (but he's 17/12 so I'm wary about him bluffing much or having those weak Kx).

So, of that we can make him fold some bluffs, which is kind of nice because they have equity. However, we burn money against the sets that he's never folding ever. We can get shoved on and have to fold our equity to value hands/bluffs, which sucks. We can maaaaaybe make him fold some of those possible two pairs if he both has and check/raises them and we get a good run out. Can maybe make him fold better Kx on some run outs but again, we'd have to assume that he has and raises them.

It's also going to be tough to bluff with no flush draw and only gutshot straight draws.

And as far as our ranges go, I'd be flatting my strongest hands on the flop on the basis that it's hard for him to have anything to pay us off immediately on a dry board, and what does pay us off, if we had KK for example, is getting coolered on almost every run out anyway.

So when you said you were "mostly trying to get info with the 3 bet", my response is that I think you got very little info and it didn't help you much either. Flop is far more important than turn/river imo because that's where the button clicking started that got you into this spot.