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bad bluff or a huge all in overbet wanting to sound like a bluff ? bad bluff or a huge all in overbet wanting to sound like a bluff ?

02-08-2009 , 07:30 PM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 32007
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dimillion (SB): $7.85
johan III (BB): $19.60
Hero (UTG): $14.70
MelmanSix (MP): $10.75
SchoenebergX (CO): $18.10
Olga1981 (BTN): $12.65

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $0.40, MelmanSix calls $0.40, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 3 A 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MelmanSix bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, MelmanSix raises to $1.30, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($3.55) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MelmanSix bets $9.05 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $3.55
MelmanSix wins $3.40
(Rake: $0.15)

Question : am i facing a very bad bluff or an all in bet wanting to sound like a bluff ? Thanks for your comments

Last edited by Jaymzpad; 02-08-2009 at 07:33 PM. Reason: Added Politeness formula
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02-08-2009 , 07:41 PM
Stats on vill?

Dont 3bet flop, its either a fold or a call imo. His 4bet can depending on the player mean a plain ace, kd, or even a made flush. So i think the all ni decision is pretty 50/50
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02-08-2009 , 07:44 PM
idk, i think i'll call here in this spot. It seems like villain neither have a SC and want to get it in or got some sort of hand to protect and bluffing, unless have have hands like AxQd, AxKd, but that i'd think he mgiht 3bet at least iP, but i dunno for such low stakes. If he really have the nuts, theres no need to just overbet like that, I'd rather close to pot or pot and get it in on river right?
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02-08-2009 , 08:45 PM
What are you trying to accomplish by checkraising the flop?
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02-08-2009 , 09:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustav
What are you trying to accomplish by checkraising the flop?
+1

I dont understand ur line at all

zzz
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02-08-2009 , 09:57 PM
As said above, why the check-raise on the flop? With JJ (UTG) and an Ace on the flop I'm not that big a fan of JJ, also with 3 diamonds out there I like it less.

I hate being oop with this hand, I might just lead on the flop, or even the check call, but not a raise, and after the check-raise to get re-raised I am dumping it there.

I think the way you played the hand got you into a tight spot, let us know your line of thinking.
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02-09-2009 , 09:21 AM
Hi everyone, thanks for your replies,

No stats on the villain.

I agree on the fact that i probably did two mistakes.
1/ Check the flop
2/ Check raising the flop
Me checking the flop there was a good chance that he'd take a stab at it behind (at least that was my thought). Thus check raising was a way of testing his hand.
At that point, i was willing to find out if he the diamonds scared him.
Now i believe i should have just called his raise.

At that point i put him on :
- 77, 33, AA (less probable he would have reraised pf)
- AK, AQ
- A7, A3

But when came the turn card, and him goin all in after my check, my line of thinking was :
- he is definitely not scared of the diamonds
- given i check raised the flop and then called his reraise he probably thinks i have a diamond too.
- but the idea that i have a flush doesn't scare him
- So I put him on AKd and believed he put me on a flush and thus he thought his all in bet would get called

Hope i'm clear, thanks for your feedbacks.
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