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Ax on 2345, did I level myself into folding?

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03-27-2011 , 10:00 PM

kbinferno

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 846

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

UTG+1: $10.42 (104.2 bb)
UTG+2: $10 (100 bb)
MP1: $12.28 (122.8 bb)
MP2: $10 (100 bb)
MP3: $11.76 (117.6 bb)
CO: $13.04 (130.4 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $10.60 (106 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks because he got confused and thought MP1 raised pre, MP1 checks

Turn: ($0.90) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60

River: ($2.10) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, MP1 raises to $11.28 and is all-in, Hero folds

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03-27-2011 , 10:09 PM

blame_hofmann

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No.

In fact wtf do you think he calls with OTR that you beat, never mind jams? You have like the 465th nuts on a horrible board.

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03-27-2011 , 10:14 PM

kbinferno

adept

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 846

idk I thought he raised pre while in the hand so I targeted sc's & low pp's that he would be stubborn with

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03-27-2011 , 10:53 PM

PengGrade

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 7

Looking at it, unless you have some kind of other read which would suggest it's hot air, then you have to fold. Flush got there. a 6 would be whacky (called 4x pre) but not impossible- drawing from the flop and you checked. what's more in both of these he knows that theres a decent chance of getting great value from an A. And of course you could just be putting in alot of chips to cut it with his A and get back a $1ish.

It's a nasty spot but I'd lay it down.

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03-27-2011 , 11:20 PM

kbinferno

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my first thought was to fold

then I thought that he might be greedy and doing this with Ax also, pissed that this resulted in a split, so I was going to call

then I was like wait he would do this to look like a pissed shove with sixes so I wanted to fold

idk i suck

but yeah, okay fold is fine but is my river bet really that bad?

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03-27-2011 , 11:24 PM

Doboyfusion

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What hands are you getting value from when you bet river?

if you can answer that then it could be a good bet. Personally I can't think of any.

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03-27-2011 , 11:28 PM

flip2win

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c/f river ainec

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03-28-2011 , 12:06 AM

gman339

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Super easy fold.

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03-28-2011 , 12:09 AM

kbinferno

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I thought I could get value out of some sc's and pretty much all pp's except 66

keep in mind guys that I thought villain raised pre, and otf I checked to check to the preflop raiser.

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03-28-2011 , 12:13 AM

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flip2win

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kbinferno

I thought I could get value out of some sc's and pretty much all pp's except 66

keep in mind guys that I thought villain raised pre, and otf I checked to check to the preflop raiser.

TBH - Pre isn't that bad. The river bet is the part that is bad imo. What are we accomplishing by betting the river? We aren't value betting since we know nothing about the villain and the board is about as scary as it gets for anything that we beat (2p, sets). And we are not bluffing because there is no way that better hands like flushes or sixes fold. I guess we are trying to get an Ace to lay down?

Check on the river, then fold is easily the best play imo.

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03-28-2011 , 02:18 AM

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The Fault

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I dont understand where the level is. River is easy fold. Ppl dont do this with hands you beat

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03-28-2011 , 02:31 AM

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Frack

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 537

lol he almost 4x'ed the entire POT on the river. snap fold. I would have checked that river too. Nothing you beat is calling imo

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03-28-2011 , 03:39 AM

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Exothermic

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16,810

'L' would of folded....

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