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02-25-2016 , 06:11 PM

Blue-chip-tuna

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$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $5.04 (100.8 bb)
UTG: $4.66 (93.2 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $6.01 (120.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $5 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

UTG raises to $0.15, MP raises to $0.45, 5 folds

Readless vs both V's

Flat pre or F?

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02-25-2016 , 06:14 PM

derjan

old hand

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Fold.

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02-25-2016 , 07:24 PM

steezystolz

centurion

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Fold fold fold. Any hand that utg opens and mp 3 bets pretty much always has us dominated. Plus were burning money by calling and then maybe having UTG 4bet forcing us to fold.

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02-25-2016 , 07:51 PM

spikeraw22

The Situation

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If this isn't an auto fold you got work to do son.

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02-25-2016 , 09:38 PM

dwannabe

centurion

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Our hand is so pretty tho!

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02-25-2016 , 11:27 PM

xMJK

adept

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cawl or 4b ship

Spoiler:

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02-25-2016 , 11:50 PM

z0mgtiltz

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It's not an auto-fold but you likely aren't +EV to have a cold4bet bluffing range vs a lot of players here

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02-25-2016 , 11:54 PM

steezystolz

centurion

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz

It's not an auto-fold but you likely aren't +EV to have a cold4bet bluffing range vs a lot of players here

I think maybe with reads on our villains we could turn our hand into a bluff. But without any hand history were pretty in the dark 4 bet bluffing here.

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02-26-2016 , 01:06 AM

Barfunkel

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Fold 100% of times vs unknowns. Zero reasons to cold call 3-bets with an easily dominated hand against two, with blinds still yet to act too.

If you would know the opponents well, you might want to occasionally cold 4-bet bluff with this hand though. Cold 4-bets have LOTS of FE against thinking opponents, assuming you only do it rarely. Were I in UTG's or MP's shoes, I'd seriously consider folding AK or QQ, if a sane looking reg cold 4-bet me here.

Of course, a good situation like that is rare in NL5, but you gotta be prepared to bluff, when the situation arises!

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02-26-2016 , 01:52 AM

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Gunblade

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You'd have to know your opponents better than they know themselves to make a 4 bet (Calling would be the worst decision out of Fold, Call or Raise). Little room for doubt or fuzzy estimates.

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02-26-2016 , 03:36 AM

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Blue-chip-tuna

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What if we had AQo

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02-26-2016 , 03:58 PM

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z0mgtiltz

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Similar hand. Better blocker effect but less likely to flop something good [though it doesn't matter at stackdepth]

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02-26-2016 , 05:31 PM

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Blue-chip-tuna

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Whats our flatting range pre?

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02-26-2016 , 07:15 PM

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TiltedDonkey

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Fold.

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