Full Tilt Poker $25.00 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
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Hero (BB): $138.14
BTN: $37.39
SB: $46.79

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Q A
1 fold, SB raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, SB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.50) 8 J Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, SB calls $2.75

Turn: ($10.00) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.25, SB calls $6.25

River: ($22.50) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero?

Villain 20/17 7%3bet AF:2, He has the tendencie to play passivly post flop with good made hands. I thought this is a standard vbet on river since villain would prolly c/r big hands on flop/turn. I figured I could bet turn since his range should include lots of pairs with picked up draws and that he wouldnt semi bluff them based on reads.

I had intentions of b/f turn if c/r. Any thoughts on Pre?Flop?Turn?River?

Do you have any history with villain in other pots where somebody spazzed, got caught bluffing, 3bet wars, or some other weird dynamic? If so, I'd bet again on the river for a hero call -- $12

If no other reads, go ahead and just check behind river as getting a third street out of KQ or AJ (or whatever one pair hand) seems pretty unlikely.

Are you afraid of a c/r on river? Villain is always check raising larger hands on turn. I think this is a solid value bet on the river. You can still get called by worse. AJ? KJ? with flush draw. Is villain known to not value bet a flush if he such hand as ATss AKss? This is a std value bet in my opinion.

Bet more on the flop and more on the turn. I'd make a 1/3 pottish bet on the river for value. Most likely you are strictly bet/folding this hand, barring any prior history of villain playing draws fast ip. This is a draw heavy board, and when you have a strong 1-pair hand on a draw-heavy board you should weight your betting to the flop+turn to maximize value from draws and floats.

3 bet like a man...cmon now you are 200bbs deep enough with the cheese raise

lol

3x is std?

for people who dont think maybe

sure

A lot of times, I'd advocate checking turn or checking behind on the river with one pair hands because you rarely get 3 streets of value out of them. However, in this case, you should make a standard value bet because if AJ or KQ calls your flop and turn bet, they'll pay you off on the riv. Any sets or made flushes would've check raised you earlier.

you're oop. you 4bet should be at least 4x here given stacks.

+1

...butnahhhhh.