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09-26-2023 , 12:32 PM
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NL Holdem 1(BB)
HERO ($109.63) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 24.1% | AGG: 37.2% | Flop Agg: 43.8% | Turn Agg: 33% | River Agg: 36.4% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 61% | 4Bet: 14.7% | Hands: 257061]
BB ($51) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 9]
UTG ($100) [VPIP: 38.1% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 21]
HJ ($102.70) [VPIP: 23.8% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 21]
CO ($100) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 66.7% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
BTN ($130.84) [VPIP: 42.1% | PFR: 31.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 21]

Dealt to Hero: A Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $2.30, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $11.60, BB Folds, CO Calls $9.30

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.65 effective]
Flop ($24.20): 5 K 9
HERO Bets $7.59 (Rem. Stack: $90.44), CO Calls $7.59 (Rem. Stack: $80.81)

Turn ($39.38): 5 K 9 Q
HERO Checks, CO Bets $12.35 (Rem. Stack: $68.46), HERO Calls $12.35 (Rem. Stack: $78.09)

River ($64.08): 5 K 9 Q 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $68.46 (allin), HERO ?
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09-26-2023 , 12:48 PM
COs turn sizing seems small for this texture. Maybe these means they get to the river with enough combos to be overbluffing, but probably folding.

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09-26-2023 , 03:40 PM
snapfold
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09-26-2023 , 04:15 PM
Fold with no info.
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09-26-2023 , 05:53 PM
I'm suspicious of the turn sizing that perfectly sets up a PSB on river.
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09-26-2023 , 06:17 PM
I would call. Most regs will pure open and call 67s and 78s, which are obv bluffs and you will see some AJ/AT low pairs imo
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09-26-2023 , 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madchens123
I'm suspicious of the turn sizing that perfectly sets up a PSB on river.
Do you think the turn sizing makes him weaker?
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09-26-2023 , 06:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Haizemberg93
I would call. Most regs will pure open and call 67s and 78s, which are obv bluffs and you will see some AJ/AT low pairs imo
Would you call vs C-B50-Jam?
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09-26-2023 , 07:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Do you think the turn sizing makes him weaker?
I think it makes him stronger. This sizing would likely generate very few folds and it feels like a "Bet turn to check back bad rivers or bet blank rivers" type bet IMO.

Isn't call-bet-bet largely underbluffed in MDA?
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09-26-2023 , 07:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madchens123
I think it makes him stronger. This sizing would likely generate very few folds and it feels like a "Bet turn to check back bad rivers or bet blank rivers" type bet IMO.

Isn't call-bet-bet largely underbluffed in MDA?
Oh I think it makes him weaker although my CFP doesn't have filters for the turn here.

C-B-B is dependent on positions and cbet sizing on whether it is over or under bluffed, this formation is pretty neutral but we went small OTF so that means he will have more floats.
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09-26-2023 , 07:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Do you think the turn sizing makes him weaker?
Idk
It seems like a normal sizing
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09-26-2023 , 08:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
Do you think the turn sizing makes him weaker?

hard to tell, IP uses mostly big bet no? i have a feeling small bet-OB could be bluffed more by regs.
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09-26-2023 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by redwhirl
hard to tell, IP uses mostly big bet no? i have a feeling small bet-OB could be bluffed more by regs.
yeah turn is supposed to be bigger, i think it's a tell but need more data
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09-27-2023 , 02:16 PM
okay ty for the feedback

results

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 1(BB)
HERO ($109.63) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 24.1% | AGG: 37.2% | Flop Agg: 43.8% | Turn Agg: 33% | River Agg: 36.4% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 61% | 4Bet: 14.7% | Hands: 258130]
BB ($51) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 9]
UTG ($100) [VPIP: 38.1% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 21]
HJ ($102.70) [VPIP: 23.8% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 21]
CO ($100) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 66.7% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
BTN ($130.84) [VPIP: 42.1% | PFR: 31.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 21]

Dealt to Hero: A Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $2.30, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $11.60, BB Folds, CO Calls $9.30

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.65 effective]
Flop ($24.20): 5 K 9
HERO Bets $7.59 (Rem. Stack: $90.44), CO Calls $7.59 (Rem. Stack: $80.81)

Turn ($39.38): 5 K 9 Q
HERO Checks, CO Bets $12.35 (Rem. Stack: $68.46), HERO Calls $12.35 (Rem. Stack: $78.09)

River ($64.08): 5 K 9 Q 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $68.46 (allin), HERO Calls $68.46 (Rem. Stack: $9.63)

Spoiler:

CO shows: 5 6

HERO wins: $197
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09-27-2023 , 03:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
okay ty for the feedback

results

Hand History driven straight to this forum with DriveHUD 2 Poker HUD and Database Software

NL Holdem 1(BB)
HERO ($109.63) [VPIP: 28.8% | PFR: 24.1% | AGG: 37.2% | Flop Agg: 43.8% | Turn Agg: 33% | River Agg: 36.4% | 3Bet: 11.5% | Fold to 3Bet: 61% | 4Bet: 14.7% | Hands: 258130]
BB ($51) [VPIP: 11.1% | PFR: 11.1% | AGG: 0% | Hands: 9]
UTG ($100) [VPIP: 38.1% | PFR: 33.3% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 21]
HJ ($102.70) [VPIP: 23.8% | PFR: 19% | AGG: 16.7% | Hands: 21]
CO ($100) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 16.7% | AGG: 66.7% | Flop Agg: 0% | Turn Agg: 100% | River Agg: 100% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 0% | Hands: 6]
BTN ($130.84) [VPIP: 42.1% | PFR: 31.6% | AGG: 33.3% | Hands: 21]

Dealt to Hero: A Q

UTG Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $2.30, BTN Folds, HERO Raises To $11.60, BB Folds, CO Calls $9.30

Hero SPR on Flop: [3.65 effective]
Flop ($24.20): 5 K 9
HERO Bets $7.59 (Rem. Stack: $90.44), CO Calls $7.59 (Rem. Stack: $80.81)

Turn ($39.38): 5 K 9 Q
HERO Checks, CO Bets $12.35 (Rem. Stack: $68.46), HERO Calls $12.35 (Rem. Stack: $78.09)

River ($64.08): 5 K 9 Q 4
HERO Checks, CO Bets $68.46 (allin), HERO Calls $68.46 (Rem. Stack: $9.63)

Spoiler:

CO shows: 5 6

HERO wins: $197
Cool hand. I quite like his play and would have wrongly presumed it to be pretty strong because it looks so much like setting up a river jam and they have all the KQs/99 and probably all the JTs.
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09-27-2023 , 04:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madchens123
Cool hand. I quite like his play and would have wrongly presumed it to be pretty strong because it looks so much like setting up a river jam and they have all the KQs/99 and probably all the JTs.
bad call and massive -EV in the longrun…
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09-27-2023 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendoo
bad call and massive -EV in the longrun…
Not sure what you are pointing at. I said I would have folded but I like his bluff. Said nothing about the call.
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09-27-2023 , 04:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by madchens123
Not sure what you are pointing at. I said I would have folded but I like his bluff. Said nothing about the call.
sorry - misread that you meant the call…
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09-27-2023 , 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendoo
bad call and massive -EV in the longrun…
lol massive.

It's less than a 1bb mistake in a solver to call here and I think the turn sizing is a tell.

I would fold OTR if he bet bigger OTT
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09-27-2023 , 05:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendoo
bad call and massive -EV in the longrun…
What exactly makes you think this?
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09-27-2023 , 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DooDooPoker
lol massive.

It's less than a 1bb mistake in a solver to call here and I think the turn sizing is a tell.

I would fold OTR if he bet bigger OTT
1bb mistake in a hand is -100bb/100.
Doesn’t look too small to me….
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09-27-2023 , 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kendoo
1bb mistake in a hand is -100bb/100.
Doesn’t look too small to me….
Yeah I've heard that response a million times and don't agree with the logic.

Any mistake in a solver will be huge if you just times it by 100, but there are a bunch of other factors that the solver doesn't account for.
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