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AQo after 3bet and coldcall AQo after 3bet and coldcall

01-24-2016 , 06:14 PM
Are we folding this?

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 96.48 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 16)
CO: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BTN: 95.08 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 261.08 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 16)
BB: 80 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A Q

Hero raises to 2.2 BB, MP raises to 8 BB, CO calls 8 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 7 BB, Hero calls 5.8 BB

Flop: (32.4 BB, 4 players) K A 9
BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 15.2 BB, fold, fold, fold

CO wins 30.96 BB
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-24-2016 , 06:36 PM
I would probably fold this preflop. AQo isn't a great hand to play multiway, and there aren't enough hands we've played with Villain for me to be comfortable determining that AQo is ahead of his 3bet range. If Villain 3bets with all sorts of nonsense, then 4betting here might be an option. But I don't think we can know that at this point.

We're OOP in a multiway pot with a hand that plays better against fewer opponents, we're uncertain as to what Villain's 3betting range his, and we have a hand that is susceptible to domination.

I fold preflop. Since we came along to the flop, I would probably call the flop bet and reevaluate on the turn, but this is certainly an unhappy position to be in.
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-24-2016 , 06:37 PM
We have to call 5.8 BB for 32BB and closing the betting. Can't see a fold preflop but ofc expect to be behind most of the time.
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-24-2016 , 06:49 PM
I think an interesting line could be to just 4bet jam. Not saying it's correct, but certainly interesting to think about. Callers in pots tend to make everyone else play tighter.

But we definitely have to call preflop. Given the action, it's not all that likely we're dominated.

Flop has to be a call then if we're calling preflop. TPTK on a fairly drawy board. We could be up against 99, but the hand we're really afraid of only has 6 combos left.
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-24-2016 , 07:39 PM
Call flop at least
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-25-2016 , 06:23 AM
Ok tx.

Think I gave the coldcaller a little too much respect.

BTW we have around 20% equity vs 3 10% ranges so calling preflop is pretty standard given that we need only 18% and ranges are pbb a bit wider in reality.
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-25-2016 , 12:15 PM
If you're going to be MR UTG and C/F TPQK OTF after the coldcallers C/F, you're better off just 4X PF. Opening this small in EP is just bad. What's the plan PF? Are we trying to flop quads?
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-25-2016 , 12:40 PM
The plan is to check to the 3better and see what he does. But I was surprised by the coldcaller who is betting 4way which looks pretty strong to me.

Games are pretty tight aggressive so if I want to be able to call 3bets I have to open small and I steal the blinds in percentage almost the same as opening bigger.
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01-25-2016 , 01:09 PM
Opening small UTG in order to call 3Bs OOP and fold OTF for 1/2 CB isn't much of a plan. Idk maybe I'm wrong since nobody else questioned this. I see quite a few players in my micro games MR early and they just get owned so hard from position. If you get it to work you tell me what you did differently.
AQo after 3bet and coldcall Quote
01-25-2016 , 02:58 PM
Buy-in full. I think 4b/f is better than flatting. Fold flop AINEC.
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