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AQ, call, raise, fold? AQ, call, raise, fold?

01-14-2013 , 02:16 AM
SB: $5.38 -
Hero (BB): $5.00 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 4, AF: 2,0, Hands: 78327
UTG: $12.03 - VPIP: 0, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0,0, Hands: 4
MP: $11.50 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2,9, Hands: 365
CO: $5.00 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 11, AF: 2,5, Hands: 194
BTN: $5.59 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 27, 3B: 1, AF: 4,0, Hands: 223

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with Q A
4 folds, SB raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.10 call vs unknown?

Flop: ($0.30) 2 3 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.70) T (2 players)
SB bets $0.35, Hero?

1) If we assume that we are ahead with the straight/TP, we have 10 outs, thus only need 0.23$ implied odds on the river to call, which is a 0.16PSB. Surely we have it.

2)THe bet size got smaller, which I assume he would never do with a strong/premium hand.

But since he looks weak, I'd rather utilize my FE. With 10 outs, and this raise size, we need around 35% FE, which we have imo. The problem is, that I dont really have any implied odds imo if he calls.

The question is, do we have the 35% FE to raise; 16% implied to call; or none of them, so fold?
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01-14-2013 , 02:28 AM
lol just fold the turn.
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01-14-2013 , 02:46 AM
1) if we assume we are ahead we dont need outs

vs unknown i 3bet/fold pre. its the first hand, he mostly steals/folds, i show that i defend my blind, allready got a 3bet on his hud. not loving to station in position when i can be aggressive
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01-14-2013 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by epix-
1) if we assume we are ahead we dont need outs

vs unknown i 3bet/fold pre. its the first hand, he mostly steals/folds, i show that i defend my blind, allready got a 3bet on his hud. not loving to station in position when i can be aggressive
+1
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01-15-2013 , 03:01 PM
1)I dont say we are ahead NOW, but we could easily on the river with 10 outs.

We basically dont expect him to 2ndbarrel worse here, that is why turn is "obvious" fold?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pSmhZFbCy0
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01-15-2013 , 03:26 PM
I actually think this is a nice spot to raise the turn. Our line is going to look very strong and I agree he very rarely has 2P+ here. Plus, if he calls, we could probably barrel whenever checked to, with a vbetting range of any A, Q or 4.
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01-15-2013 , 04:59 PM
This is like an automatic 3-bet. You're in position with a hand that figures to absolutely crush his wide range. Why would you ever flat and leave him with initiative? Hand plays out totally different if you 3-bet and probably doesn't see a flop. When it does a standard c-bet takes it down like 80% of the time.
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01-15-2013 , 05:03 PM
As played, calling the turn is pretty silly. All of your outs will be scare cards and you'll get no value from this obviously weak player with a weak hand. It's uNL though so he's probably a station. Raising the turn could get expensive, so that's a bad move too. If you were going to raise as played, the flop would've been the time to do it.

Again, 3 bet next time so you don't wind up in such a ridiculous hand.
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01-15-2013 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisGil
This is like an automatic 3-bet.
Disagree
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Originally Posted by ChrisGil
c-bet takes it down like 80% of the time.
Not true
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Originally Posted by ChrisGil
Again, 3 bet next time so you don't wind up in such a ridiculous hand.
These are not reasons to 3bet.

It's close but I think you have enough equity to call again ott vs a range of FDs, 66-99, pairs and some other Ax.

If he checks river on a blank I would check back and expect to win enough vs Ax and flush draws. If he checks on a 4 or Q or A we're obv betting for value.
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01-21-2013 , 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisGil
As played, calling the turn is pretty silly. All of your outs will be scare cards and you'll get no value from this obviously weak player with a weak hand. It's uNL though so he's probably a station. Raising the turn could get expensive, so that's a bad move too. If you were going to raise as played, the flop would've been the time to do it.

Again, 3 bet next time so you don't wind up in such a ridiculous hand.
+1
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01-21-2013 , 04:15 AM
3bet pre imo, if you dont 3bet this pre BvB what do you 3bet?
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01-21-2013 , 05:41 AM
I m as well voting for 3 bet preflop. And the reason is that this are microstakes and in SB vs BB when they do this they have wide range (like probably on other stake levels as well) but to 3 bet on this level i think they will continue with many worse aces and probably some queens as well. If he 4 bets, you can easy fold.

The way you played it: (i do play cold call AQ in this spot many times, but when i have read that the villain is folding to 3 bet or 4beting). You have call because u think he is full of s***. On this flop you must raise. You have nothing, 6 outs. And villain is cbeting probably automatically like the most do on this level. the way you played is too weak and it is not TAG style of play.
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01-21-2013 , 05:59 AM
3 bet pre.

As played. I'd float the flop looking to take it away OTT if ckd to.
However, once he bets the turn, I'd fold.
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01-21-2013 , 06:23 AM
i'm raising the turn to ~1.2, his sizing is just screaming please take me off my hand
should he call with a draw, we're ahead

and i'm 3betting for value preflop
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01-21-2013 , 07:51 AM
Agree with above post. As played, when he bets so small on the turn I have a hard time not raising to about $1.40 given a Queen, 4, & probably Ace, almost certainly give us the best even if he calls.

I would 3bet pre, & slam the desk & fold if he 4bets or shoves because I'm not paying some nit off just because he happens to wake up with KK first hand, which becomes very obvious when he's running 12/10 50 hands later
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