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09-02-2011 , 04:38 PM

MusicMan631

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 181

Merge, $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10473052

CO: $4 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.97 (149.3 bb)
SB: $3.96 (99 bb)
BB: $3.19 (79.8 bb)
UTG+1: $2.48 (62 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $5.69 (142.3 bb)
MP1: $5.64 (141 bb)
MP2: $2.39 (59.8 bb)
MP3: $7.23 (180.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, 4 folds, BTN raises to $0.27, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.60, Hero raises to $2.40, BTN raises to $5.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.02

Turn: ($11.44) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($11.44) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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thought he had kk or aa we were deep if i floped a 5 i was getting his stack.

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09-02-2011 , 04:42 PM

MusicMan631

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I think this guy has to have brain damage cause the way he played it makes no sense at all.

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09-02-2011 , 04:59 PM

AAAAlex_

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 31

NH, move to the next one. Nothing you could do. Maybe fold pre flop.

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I think this guy has to have brain damage cause the way he played it makes no sense at all.

Any stats? A reg cbets when he has air or the nuts. He knows he'll get action

Also, some will probably say to just call and let him bluff his money since it's a relatively dry board.

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09-02-2011 , 05:44 PM

vrbik

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imho played well

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09-02-2011 , 06:01 PM

krooku

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 401

really looks like an overpair, in this case Aces. Small 3bet IP, fast played on flop in case hero hit his king and won't let it go. Cooler.

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09-02-2011 , 06:57 PM

enigmatic1x

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Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,059

obviously getting it in here is fine without reads.
Do you think flop check-raise is the best line?

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09-03-2011 , 02:29 AM

JH1

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Originally Posted by MusicMan631

I think this guy has to have brain damage cause the way he played it makes no sense at all.

If you're calling with random **** to setmine OOP, his play is pretty awesome with ATC if you're folding 80% of flops and he can just cbet/giveup the rest.*

*Disclaimer: I'm going to make a wild guess based on the 4NL read in the first line that villain doesn't know why he's doing what he's doing so it's fine to setmine, but his play in itself is far from brain dead and makes total sense in a vacuum such as this readless, statless HH.

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09-03-2011 , 02:59 AM

Mr.Eanes

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yeah...to call a 3bet with 55 oop without a plan to steal pots on specific flop and turn textures means you are set mining ... you are not getting the odds to set mine so i think this is a fold.

postflop... villain is most likely not raising pre with K5s+ so two pair is out, and would he be willing to get it in on the flop with top pair top kicker on a dry rainbow flop? not unless he is a fish or a good player with a read. i would say his range is made up of KK+ or a set, and since you have 55, your almost always beat. the only hand your ahead of here is AA imo...

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09-03-2011 , 05:56 AM

MiCro

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Originally Posted by Mr.Eanes

I agree with not having the odds to setmine.

Your second point is just madness. If villain knows we throw away bottom set on this kind of board he may as well put the gimp mask on us now and make us his bitch for ever more.

Cooler. Move on.

And I like the way villain played the hand.

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09-03-2011 , 10:49 AM

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JH1

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Originally Posted by MiCro

I agree with not having the odds to setmine.

Your second point is just madness. If villain knows we throw away bottom set on this kind of board he may as well put the gimp mask on us now and make us his bitch for ever more.

Cooler. Move on.

And I like the way villain played the hand.

Please to be explaining how non-potripper type villains know what we're folding?

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09-03-2011 , 11:26 AM

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MiCro

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Well obviously villain doesn't know exactly what we fold, but if we only ever call with top set then he can raise atc on most flops, and he can work out that we fold everything but the nuts pretty easily.

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09-03-2011 , 11:51 AM

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Icanbeatadraw

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Well played, usually he will have AK, AA etc, becouse fish love to minraise his big hands, assuming hes a fish.

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09-03-2011 , 02:38 PM

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ArtySmokes

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I don't like the pre-flop open-raise. With several players still to act, there's a good chance you'll get 3-bet and have to fold. I'd prefer to limp 55 in EP and go set-mining cheaply. If you hadn't raised to 12c, you wouldn't have had to pay a total of 27c to see the flop with such a weak hand.

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09-03-2011 , 03:12 PM

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MartL

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Originally Posted by JH1

Agree with this. His play is awesome if he had a clue what he was doing and why he was doing it.

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