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06-17-2015 , 04:54 AM
Am I ready to.move up have $600 in the account and been playing .10/.25 not sure if I'm capable of keeping such a high bb but so many fish at these stakes [/IMG]
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06-17-2015 , 04:56 AM
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06-17-2015 , 05:00 AM
although 42 bb/100 is a huge winrate I wouldn't spend too much time looking at your graph at all.

3000 hands are really not that big of a sample.

a general thumb of rule is to go for 100.000 hands on a given limit.
have a look at your graph and winrate again after this amount of hands, if it stays the same or
you stay within a 4-5 bb/100 winrate I would consider taking a shot at higher levels
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06-17-2015 , 05:20 AM
Thank you so much for the input I will try and play 100.000 hands and see what my bb100 is from there I have a lot if notes on a few regs aswell also so we'd benefit from stay at this level thank you very much
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06-17-2015 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rangemonkey
Thank you so much for the input I will try and play 100.000 hands and see what my bb100 is from there I have a lot if notes on a few regs aswell also so we'd benefit from stay at this level thank you very much
How many tables are you playing? It obviously would be hard to get a large enough sample if you aren't playing that many but given the amount of hands you've played, you are more often than not just on a heater... I'd recommend at least 20k hands before you decide to move up.

Apart from that, you would only have 600/50 = 12 buyins for the next stake... You're barely rolled for your current stake. I'd recommend grind to atleast 25 buyins before even thinking about taking a shot at the next level. You're extremely like to go busto with so few buyins.

Edit: (I've experienced up to 10 buyin down/upswings in 1k hands before... eventually you end up running bad and you need a way to deal with that.) Also... for 6-max I'd say the standard deviation in winrate is about 100bb/100. So a 3k sample is definitely not enough information. Play around with the variance calculator and you'll see just how meaningless your sample size is http://pokerdope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

Last edited by neurotoxiccc; 06-17-2015 at 05:47 AM.
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06-17-2015 , 07:12 AM
Thanks k you I appreciate this information I decided to stay at .10. 25 I don't think I could move down as some players seriously make me tilt with there shove anything mentality at .5.10 and there's some serious weak regulars at this steak I also always play 2 tables as I like try play solid poker with reads and find multi tabling I robotic play and my all though I still earn my bb/100 would drop way to low also my bb/100 is big blinds in poker tracker format not big bets
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06-17-2015 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by rangemonkey
I don't think I could move down as some players seriously make me tilt with there shove anything mentality at .5.10
Then you need to work on tilt issues instead, not boycott moving down.

Also people play 3k hands in 1 session here... it means nothing.
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06-17-2015 , 07:44 AM
- Your sample is way too small. A winrate of 42 bb/100 is impossible to maintain over a decent sample.

- As neurotoxiccc mentioned, you are barely rolled for your current stake (24buyins). It's too soon to think about taking shots. You have to realise that it's easy to encounter a 10 buyin downswing, which will be a lot more if you haven't learned to handle a run of coolers. And honestly, the fact that you say stuff like "I don't think I could move down as some players seriously make me tilt with there shove anything mentality at .5.10 " makes me doubt this.

- I would recommend you use at least a 30 buyin base and start taking shots when you have 4 buyins for the level above. In your case: keep playing at 25NL until you have 750+4*50= 950, at which point you have 4 bullets for your 50NL shots. If/When you drop down to 750 again, have the discipline to grind it back up first at 25NL. Should you drop below 480, move back to 16NL, and so on. Basically, bankrollwise, at this point you are still taking your 25NL shot imo.

Last edited by 14nd3r; 06-17-2015 at 07:54 AM.
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06-17-2015 , 10:47 AM
Thank you I mean for bankroll management I can deposit more for .10.25 so my bankroll is with the right limits I mean I have played poker for a long time read a lot of books jus I always played live I'm pretty good with people's ranges etc and have won Ł3000+ playing in my local casino but I realise live is much easier and softer I've also read let the be range which was given to me by a friend which I think improved my live playing dramatically I jus find .5.10 there isn't much real poker played and u unable out think opponents as they hardly think
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06-17-2015 , 11:30 AM
You may be a winning player at these stakes but it's too soon to tell. The fact that you don't realize this winrate is largely positive variance is concerning though.
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06-17-2015 , 11:49 AM
I realise this and i am probably on a heater i will try put in a massive sample at .10.25.the repost after a some 30000- 40000 and not take any 25.50 shots I wanna do this properly and listen to all the awesome help and info u give me I truly appreciate this is there any tips specifically for .10.25 stakes I've noticed a lot of regulars are slight losing players or I've jus lucked out on them haha
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06-17-2015 , 01:12 PM
As I said in the other thread Google sample size, you have no idea whether the other regs are winning or losing over this tiny sample
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06-17-2015 , 01:59 PM
okay thank u I stay at this stake to 100.000 hands here a new graph play a lil bit today so my goals is to 5bb over 100,000 hands is this a good idea?
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06-17-2015 , 02:53 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36811371

    SB: $56.31 (225.2 bb)
    BB: $25 (100 bb)
    MP: $26.70 (106.8 bb)
    CO: $24.74 (99 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $42.23 (168.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
    2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.75, BB folds, Hero calls $2

    Flop: ($5.75) 6 7 A (2 players)
    SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

    Turn: ($11.75) 8 (2 players)
    SB bets $7.25, Hero raises to $14.50, SB calls $7.25

    River: ($40.75) T (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Spoiler:
    Results: $40.75 pot ($1.83 rake)
    Final Board: 6 7 A 8 T
    SB showed J K and lost (-$20.25 net)
    Hero showed K A and won $38.92 ($18.67 net)



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    06-17-2015 , 03:12 PM
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