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01-28-2010 , 02:59 PM
Poker Stars $22+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t1295 M = 28.78
BTN/SB: t1705 M = 37.89

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with K A
BTN/SB raises to t90, Hero raises to t270, BTN/SB calls t180

Flop: (t540) 6 2 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t300, Hero calls t300

Turn: (t1140) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t1135 all in, Hero folds

2nd game, lost 1st one.

got no idea if hes competent or a donk, but definently not ABC.

I feel like such a tard for just check-folding the flop, yeah i miss this flop, but he 66% misses this flop aswell, so wtf do i do. cbetting he obv knows it doesnt hit my range(or doesnt and is just a tard) and raises/calls.
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01-28-2010 , 03:03 PM
Not sure what villain could have calling a 3bet so with that kind of board, I check flop and raise all in after his bet. If he had a pair PF he probably would have just shoved it over your 3bet so my guess is he has a FD or something.
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01-28-2010 , 03:03 PM
c/c'ing the flop is probably the worst thing u can do

what reads did u pick up in the 1st game? these would be helpful to know
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01-28-2010 , 03:11 PM
Cbet the flop!!

However, a good player will recognize that this flop isn't very likely to hit your 3betting range...so expect the occasional bluff call or raise
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01-28-2010 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Radeh
Cbet the flop!!

However, a good player will recognize that this flop isn't very likely to hit your 3betting rante...so expect the occasional bluff call or raise
thats the point, he was either an (over)aggresive good player who picks on weakness, or a random donk. both players wont give any credit to my cbet.

then again c-calling sucks balls aswell, since hes bluffing alot of turns.

so i felt tilted during the entire hand since all options sucked in my view.
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01-28-2010 , 03:23 PM
Pretty bad spot. I think b/c and c/shove are both viable options, and at the very least both are better than c/c. Curious to see which line others would go with and why
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01-28-2010 , 04:58 PM
I think you gotta take one of 2 actions here...

1) Check-raise all in on flop representing a big overpair.

2) Check-fold and give up.

IMO leading out is a bit meh cuz I think your gettin called pretty marginally a fair bit of the time. Summed up, imo leading out and then folding to a shove is pretty much the same as check-calling, which i dont like too much.

Actually, just looking at your stack size, I dont like the C/R all in at this point either seeing as your opponent is gettin value to call regardless, but lead folding and lead calling are just as bad so unfortunately I think this is an easy check fold.
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01-28-2010 , 05:02 PM
Just lookin over the hand again, its pretty intriguing to me.

You gotta kinda take into account a lot of his range preflop here aswell.

Lets dismiss the fact he may be trapping with QQ, KK or AA, he probably flats a lot with hands like 77-JJ. Furthermore we can pretty much rule out 10s seeing as he shoves the 10 turn. Meh i'm puttin him on 9s seeing as he ships the turn 10 which is unlikely to have hit you but he's wanting to protect his hand.
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01-28-2010 , 05:40 PM
cbet. you shouldn't be too worried about getting bluffed. If villain at 22$ game wants to be dirty and ~4x jam over your cbet in a 3b pot w/ air and hope you don't have a PP or FD because he's thinking about your range+board texture, then let him have it imo.

B/F'ing ~300 as cbet. If he flats I'd c/c a jam prob and c/f to a smaller bet.
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01-28-2010 , 05:57 PM
Well problem was that he was rly rly onorthodox, against a std 22$ reg I wouldnt think twice about this spot and its an easy cbet. But I do agree cbet is still better then c-c, was just a tilt c-c I guess. Thanks.
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