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08-25-2009 , 11:22 PM

jcolter

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Played this hand the other night. I'm pretty new to 6 max. Villain I didn't really have a read on. I felt pretty confused in this hand.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $45.10
CO: $25.00
BTN: $31.00
SB: $27.00
Hero (BB): $62.40
UTG: $34.70

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A

1 fold, MP raises to $1, 1 fold, BTN calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, MP raises to $13, 1 fold, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($27.10) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $49.40 all in, MP calls $32.10 all in

Turn: ($91.30) 6

(2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($91.30) 8

(2 players - 2 are all in)

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08-25-2009 , 11:28 PM

mg0698

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I just ship it PF

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08-26-2009 , 12:38 AM

Loki7

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Originally Posted by mg0698

I just ship it PF

This. And it's AKs btw

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08-26-2009 , 08:51 AM

jcolter

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Originally Posted by Loki7

This. And it's AKs btw

Oops. That's a typo. My post flop shove is predicated on the flush draw obviously.

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08-26-2009 , 08:56 AM

curly86

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Shove over the 4bet, I really hate the flat call

As played shove flop is fine, he hasnt enough to fold to a c/r

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08-26-2009 , 08:56 AM

Chuchyyy

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Ship it pf

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08-26-2009 , 09:12 AM

Tanner1274

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Calling 4bets is not very good, maybe as a slow play occasionally with AA, but never with AK, on the flop i like you shove, your basically a small dog to most of his range, plus this way he has to fold AK and doesn't get to ship it himself.

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08-26-2009 , 09:16 AM

absolutefish

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Don't call 4-bets oop w/ AKs. Ship it in pre.

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08-26-2009 , 09:22 AM

Zwansen

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We ship AKs in 200BBs deep at 25NL? Like we are ever good here.

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08-26-2009 , 09:23 AM

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BigFiszh

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Originally Posted by absolutefish

Never ever call 4-bets ip or oop w/ whatever your cards are. Either fold or ship it in pre.

FYP.

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Originally Posted by Zwansen

We ship AKs in 200BBs deep at 25NL? Like we are ever good here.

I admit I didn´t recognize it was 180bb effective stacks - but in this case we better had flatcalled the raise preflop. If we 3-bet and get 4-bet we have to shove (unless maybe we´re 300bb deep).

- Tack -

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08-26-2009 , 09:27 AM

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Green_29

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Originally Posted by Zwansen

We ship AKs in 200BBs deep at 25NL? Like we are ever good here.

Ummm this?

Honestly you guys must run hotter than the sun life time or I just run terrible because getting AKs aipf at nl10 and nl25 is just not profitable for me, nevermind 200bb deep.

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08-26-2009 , 09:29 AM

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absolutefish

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Originally Posted by Green_29

Ummm this?

Honestly you guys must run hotter than the sun life time or I just run terrible because getting AKs aipf at nl10 and nl25 is just not profitable for me, nevermind 200bb deep.

AKs/AKo are two of my most profitable hands, you need to find better spots obv.

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08-26-2009 , 09:36 AM

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lima

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I love players who push AK in a 3bet pot on a low flop. Very profitable to play against them.

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08-26-2009 , 09:37 AM

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Chuchyyy

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Originally Posted by lima

I love players who push AK in a 3bet pot on a low flop. Very profitable to play against them.

Actually, here, it's a 4bet pot, and we have the nut flush draw.
BUT, I prefer c/r.

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08-26-2009 , 09:39 AM

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BigFiszh

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Originally Posted by lima

I love players who push AK in a 3bet pot on a low flop. Very profitable to play against them.

1) The pot is 4-bet.

2) As played here there is no way other than getting the money in on this flop. The only decision is shoving ourselves or let Villain shove.

- Tack -

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08-26-2009 , 09:41 AM

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absolutefish

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Originally Posted by Tackleberry

1) The pot is 4-bet.

2) As played here there is no way other than getting the money in on this flop. The only decision is shoving ourselves or let Villain shove.

- Tack -

I think c/c is really bad, as played postflop is fine.

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08-27-2009 , 07:34 AM

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lima

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Originally Posted by Chuchyyy

Actually, here, it's a 4bet pot, and we have the nut flush draw.
BUT, I prefer c/r.

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Originally Posted by Tackleberry

1) The pot is 4-bet.

2) As played here there is no way other than getting the money in on this flop. The only decision is shoving ourselves or let Villain shove.

- Tack -

I apologize for my post, didn't pay attention while writing it.

my real thoughts about the hand:

1) I hate the preflop 4bet coldcall, flatting 4bet of 1/4 of effective stacks OOP with AKs is just horrible IMO. Shoving and folding is meh, although I hate variance and prefer folding.
2) I also don't like the donk overbet shove on the Flop (although it's not horrible), but rather C/R him to get it in cause this way he has a chance to bet his AK.

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08-27-2009 , 08:18 AM

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Chuchyyy

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Originally Posted by lima

I agree with you

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08-27-2009 , 09:07 AM

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ItsMyShow

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i just shove pre . Makes like so much easier

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