unknown villain


Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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BB: $9.51
UTG: $5.75
UTG+1: $2.45
Hero (UTG+2): $4.14
MP1: $1.53
MP2: $11.44
CO: $3.64
BTN: $6.99
SB: $6.05

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG+2 with A K
UTG calls $0.05, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 6 folds, UTG calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.47) 4 3 K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG raises to $0.60, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.67) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

River: ($3.07) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $1.95, Hero folds

At 5nl, I'd probably call this on the river. He could easily have KQ here as well as a set. If you thought you were beat, you should have folded on the flop.

The l/c preflop is a low PP a lot of times. After the flop, he wakes up. That is danger. Things would really depend on villans stats here, unfortunatly we don't have them. I'll don't know what I do (I've never played .05NL), but I think we are behind a lot of times or maybe slightly favorite against a FD. I just don't think villan would do this with KQ, unless he's a real bad player.

Now that I really think about it, what can he have besides a set? Not K4/K3, not AA/KK, not K5, etc.

Maybe I should have called, and if he shows a set, w/e.

At 5NL, if it looks like a set and smells like a set, it's a set unless you have strong evidence from prior observation to suggest otherwise.

• He limped in early position and then called a raise. That's almost always a small-mid pair, occasionally mid suited connectors.
• Two small cards came on the flop.
• He checked and then minraised the flop. This is an almost standard play for J. Random 2NL/5NL players with sets.
• He then led the turn and river, obviously unconcerned about what you might have.

At higher stakes, mostly 25NL and 50NL, the check/raise with a flush draw or OESD is fairly standard, but it's usually not a minraise, and that play is much less common down at the penny stakes. I fold the flop unless I have previous evidence this guy's a postflop aggrodonk.

Most 5NL villains will *not* make this kind of play with king-queen. They mostly either lead out and jam it, or just check/call it down.

WHAT? You can't be serious about folding the flop.

If I'm not going to fold it, I may as well shove it, because villain's almost never slowing down after I call his flop check/raise. If you call the flop, all the money's going to get in.

At the very least, once we call the flop and villain comes out and leads the turn, at THAT point it's obvious he's willing to get it in, and if you're going to continue you might as well shove yourself.

There are plenty of guys at 5NL willing to stack off by calling down with top pair/good kicker hands, but extremely few that will check/raise-fire-fire with top pair/good kicker -- and you almost always can instantly tell who those guys are, because they play out of control. Most of the stations are stations because they're afraid you have a set, or a pair of aces or a king with a better kicker.

And I know a lot of people think draws are a big part of Villain's range here, but I just plain disagree. The flop check/minraise is probably the single strongest play you see at the penny stakes. It's what people do with hands they think are the nuts, most of the time, or else it's something people just do all the time with lots of hands because they like to. And that latter, smaller group, you should know in advance if you're dealing with that type.

hi. long time listener - first time caller... (is that cliche yet?)

i think down at .05nl - where i play quite a bit...
k4/k3 would be an EASY hand to have... even UTG and unsuited lol
esp. w an unknown... i also don't see why it couldn't be AA/KK
some peeps like to be 'tricky' :P they aren't multi-tabling... so when get those monsters they wanna play 'em 'right'...
(as i've been writing this...
i stacked a guy pf w/AA to his K5o for $3/4
AND a guy just slow played his AA against a raise soooooo...
down in crazyville anything goes... welcome to .05nl!)

i think the min raise is kinda wierd for that level...
i rarely see the check min raise... i think Ah2h is a possibility here as well...
and i don't see him as a total donk... donks like to min bet the nuts... as you will see time and time again...

but then again... what do i know... i play .05nl

gl!

1. Reload
2. Raise more pre-flop
3. Bet more on the flop

I probably get it in on this flop vs. an unknown at this limit and expect to be good pretty often.

As played... I call this river bet. It looks like a missed draw to me. He's representing a hand that had you beat on the flop and still has you beat on the river. This range is (33, 44, AA). Highly unlikely vs. a 5NL unknown. He'll show 56, A2 and boats sometimes, but I think worse 2-pair is more likely.