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AK in position facing limp/call AK in position facing limp/call

09-12-2010 , 01:09 PM
ok guys need help on this one...similar to another hand i posted yesterday but this is a bit different and at NL5 this time...

villain is 30/6 over 35 hands.


Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BB: $5.00
UTG: $1.92
MP: $1.52
Hero (CO): $4.48
BTN: $11.35
SB: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with K A
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.23, 3 folds, MP calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.53) 4 6 7 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.45, MP calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.43) Q (2 players)
MP bets $0.80, Hero....

Spoiler:
Folded.

Final Pot: $1.43
MP wins $1.36
(Rake: $0.07)
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09-12-2010 , 01:12 PM
Check back flop and try to showdown your hand, he's not folding any pp and we're just folding out worse overcards. Turn is a pretty easy muck.
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09-12-2010 , 01:12 PM
Bet less on the flop and fold the turn.
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09-12-2010 , 01:30 PM
I don't cbet this board w/ AK red
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09-12-2010 , 01:34 PM
If he's going to fold, he'll fold to a .30 bet just as fast as a .45 bet. No reason to cbet that big on this flop. Fold turn.
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09-12-2010 , 02:41 PM
thanks but last time u guys told me to bet bigger?

fior future situations, so what range do u guys think he is likely to have in this situation???

thanks
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09-12-2010 , 02:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
thanks but last time u guys told me to bet bigger?

fior future situations, so what range do u guys think he is likely to have in this situation???

thanks
Bet sizing depends on what you want to do really.

Because the guy is 30/6 it means he limps most hands including pocket pairs 22-77 which i doubt he's folding to a raise. I would not be surprise if he actually flopped a set there. Often players such as this will check/call the flop and bomb the turn for value with their big hands hoping to get value from hands such as KQ/AQ in that spot, and also for protection from the flush draws. Unlikely he has the Q i think because i'm not too sure if he would float OOP with a hand such as AQ/KQ and definitely not play QQ like that. I think if the board was rainbow you would have probably seen a check on the turn from the guy to maybe induce a bluff or get value from a Q but I think the two flush draws scared him. 22-33 would not play the hand like that. I think his range here is pretty narrow (44-77). 55 is questionable based on whether or not the Q scared him or not and how likely he is to think his pair is good against you.

Last edited by aztecx; 09-12-2010 at 02:59 PM.
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09-12-2010 , 03:03 PM
Betting more or less on the flop depends on the Villain and on the board. With this villain and that board I am either checking back or betting .30 and giving up on it most likely. If he raises he hit it somehow and it's pretty easy to let go of high card here.
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09-12-2010 , 03:04 PM
ya thanks, thats what i put him on myself, the cold call made me think set or even possibly something like JJ+ but its really hard to tell since he was so short stacked that his bet on the turn put him all in....
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09-12-2010 , 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
ya thanks, thats what i put him on myself, the cold call made me think set or even possibly something like JJ+ but its really hard to tell since he was so short stacked that his bet on the turn put him all in....
ah wait fk i didn't notice how short he was. That does change things a fair bit but it's still a snap fold no matter what he has because he's not check/calling and shoving turn with anything that doesn't have AK high beat.

Since his so short I think his range widens a lot in this position.
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09-12-2010 , 03:21 PM
Bet less on flop, Fold Turn.

I may even not cbet flop here to evaluate on turn, folding to his lead turn bet. It's just not a good board here.
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09-12-2010 , 03:36 PM
thanks again guys-
....when u say it widens his range, are u now including hands like big PPs(10+)???....at the ultra micros, i do see people limp/call with monsters because they are so afraid of scaring people off particularly when they are short stacked and trying to get it all in.
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09-12-2010 , 03:40 PM
Buy in full, check flop.
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09-12-2010 , 03:47 PM
i did buy in full but thanks
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09-12-2010 , 03:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
thanks again guys-
....when u say it widens his range, are u now including hands like big PPs(10+)???....at the ultra micros, i do see people limp/call with monsters because they are so afraid of scaring people off particularly when they are short stacked and trying to get it all in.
Yes. Reason being is if you were both deeper he would be far more scared to stack off unless he has a big hand and is more likely to attempt some form of pot control. Since he's playing so short I wouldn't even be surprised if he made the shove on the turn with an under-pair to the Q such as 88-JJ. The only reason I didn't think he may have QQ-AA there is because I still assumed there are SOME hands he will still be raising. If you do think he's the sort of player who would limp with hands such as QQ+ then they are all possibilities as well (except QQ i dunno if he'd shove there). Another thing, whether or not the Q hit him depends on whether or not you think he would float out of position with a hand such as QJ+.

I seriously think you played the hand fine except you could have bet a tiny bit less on the flop. Other than that the turn is an easy fold.
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09-12-2010 , 03:54 PM
again i really appreciate the explanation.
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09-12-2010 , 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KAVILLA
i did buy in full but thanks
then auto top off. You don't have a full stack here, that's what he means.

check back. That flop is all over his pf l/c range like white on rice. Why are you betting? you don't even have backdoor outs.
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09-12-2010 , 04:13 PM
The big problem is the texture of the board. When a board is coordinated like 456,678,689,9TJ, and two to a flush, don't cbet, keep the pot small, if he's drawing which this flop hits a lot of fish calling range, see what the turn is, if it completes any draws.
Dont bother cbetting fish calling stations unless you flop hard, like 2pr,sets,TPTK, if they fold to c-bets a lot you can bet dry flops against them but def not a flop like this. I mean u can, but if they call proceed with caution. When he fires or you fire again and still loose the pot you'll realize it was kinda spewy.

Good fold BTW.
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