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AK on nothing vs fish (nl30) AK on nothing vs fish (nl30)

09-17-2009 , 03:19 PM
villain is 44/11/0.3 fold to cbet 0, cbet% 0, wtsd 95 w$sd 9.
i was so sure he's on fd/gutshot. others are too weak to continue with that flop so i'm quite safe here.

$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG _csabu_ ($36.27)
CO macker0815 ($29.58)
BTN Hero ($29.55)
SB benyikj3 ($9.14)
BB Cicor ($37.79)

Pre-flop: ($0.45, 5 players) Hero is BTN K A
1 fold, macker0815 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, benyikj3 calls $1.35, Cicor calls $1.20, macker0815 calls $1.20

Flop: T 2 8 ($6, 4 players)
benyikj3 checks, Cicor bets $0.30, macker0815 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $4.65, benyikj3 folds, Cicor folds, macker0815 calls $4.35

Turn: 7 ($15.60, 2 players)
macker0815 checks, Hero goes all-in $23.40, macker0815 calls $23.40

River: 4 ($62.40, 2 players)

standard stuff?
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09-17-2009 , 03:52 PM
I don't mind the squeeze on the flop, but I think I'm checking behind on the turn if this guy goes to show down 95% of the time (what kind of sample size is that?).

Even if he is still on a draw I don't think he'll call an overbet like that on the turn without at least a pair. Maybe I'm wrong though. If I'm betting the turn I think I'm making it less than pot.
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09-17-2009 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by likminutz
I don't mind the squeeze on the flop, but I think I'm checking behind on the turn if this guy goes to show down 95% of the time (what kind of sample size is that?).

Even if he is still on a draw I don't think he'll call an overbet like that on the turn without at least a pair. Maybe I'm wrong though. If I'm betting the turn I think I'm making it less than pot.
thanks for ur answer. btw, over 420 hands
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09-17-2009 , 04:08 PM
This is so bad
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09-17-2009 , 04:48 PM
You can just send him money using the transfer funds option.
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09-17-2009 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by joephe
This is so bad
Don't take this the wrong way, but your input on the few hands I've seen you comment on is awful.


likminutz had it right, it's a good place and try to get to showdown. You've got position on him, so there's not a whole lot of reason to shove there. You could be folding out some better hands

You've got a good sample to indicate you'll get to SD cheap, so I would take it and just appreciate losing a big pot with Aks and whiffing.
Folding AK in a whiffed pot has been something I've been working on and appreciating lately.
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09-17-2009 , 04:50 PM
he could have j9

honestly tho, i don't mind the shove, that's not a terrible turn to do it on. I probably wouldn't be bothering with that flop in a 4-way pot though.
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09-17-2009 , 04:52 PM
No.

No.

No.

You tried to bluff a fish.

If you thought your A or K were outs then just call the 30 cents bet and go from there. Turn shove is so spewy.
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09-17-2009 , 04:57 PM
Does anyone not get that villain goes to showdown 95% of the time?
I.E. He's capable of calling with worse, this is a value shove, plus we almost always have 6 clean outs.
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09-17-2009 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by HeWhoRoams
Don't take this the wrong way, but your input on the few hands I've seen you comment on is awful.
I just give good honest advice, please give me an example of a post I've made which you think is inadequate.
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09-17-2009 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by joephe
I just give good honest advice, please give me an example of a post I've made which you think is inadequate.
This is so bad: is not helpful one bit.
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09-17-2009 , 05:25 PM
I personly play a lot more defensive on micro stakes table because overall its -ev to try to bluff or play advance (like floating) against fishes.. You bit fishes with a stabil game.
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09-17-2009 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by High_SocietyA9
This is so bad: is not helpful one bit.
Meh, the hand in question really did warrent that kind of repsonse though.
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09-17-2009 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by manistyle
I personly play a lot more defensive on micro stakes table because overall its -ev to try to bluff or play advance (like floating) against fishes.. You bit fishes with a stabil game.
+ this really aint wp.. RR in a multiway pot postflop with HC against fishes, bad play.. As played i personly would check behind turn to get the free card, you cant make him fold anyway.
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09-17-2009 , 05:26 PM
$0.15/$0.30 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG _csabu_ ($36.27)
CO macker0815 ($29.58)
BTN Hero ($29.55)
SB benyikj3 ($9.14)
BB Cicor ($37.79)

Pre-flop: ($0.45, 5 players) Hero is BTN K A
1 fold, macker0815 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, benyikj3 calls $1.35, Cicor calls $1.20, macker0815 calls $1.20

Flop: T 2 8 ($6, 4 players)
benyikj3 checks, Cicor bets $0.30, macker0815 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $4.65, benyikj3 folds, Cicor folds, macker0815 calls $4.35

Turn: 7 ($15.60, 2 players)
macker0815 checks, Hero goes all-in $23.40, macker0815 calls $23.40

River: 4 ($62.40, 2 players)

Final Pot: $62.40
macker0815 shows: 9 Q
Hero shows: K A

Hero wins $62.40 ( won +$32.85 )
benyikj3 lost -$1.50
Cicor lost -$1.80
macker0815 lost -$29.55
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09-17-2009 , 05:29 PM
As they say in Mexico, "No bluffa pescados!"

I know it sucks to see a fish take a pot because you raised with your AK and fishety-fishman called with J2 because he is dumb. When the board is everything but AK, and you know he won't fold, you have two choices: 1) shove in more money because he was wrong to call you and you want to prove your point, 2) patiently wait for the next opportunity to take fishbucks.

Perhaps, you can rationalize that you are doing a really slim value shove because he will call with neither a pair, nor an ace. If so, I suggest your run random cards vs. AK on that board in poker stove, and see just how slim your value is. Also, I think you are just finding a way to rationalize.

Ne bluffez pas les poisson!
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09-17-2009 , 06:19 PM
you cant bluff a station or donkey, cant beleive this donkey trapped you, dont tilt now haha
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09-17-2009 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by thelions123
you cant bluff a station or donkey, cant beleive this donkey trapped you, dont tilt now haha
guess u can't read well so lemme help ya: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=15
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09-17-2009 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shparoga
guess u can't read well so lemme help ya: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=15
Solid results orientated thinking.
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09-17-2009 , 06:46 PM
Villain shows down 95% of hands over 450+ sample.

Against 95% of hands (everything but 32o-82o) we are a 55/45 favourite on the flop.

Interesting hand.
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09-17-2009 , 06:52 PM
villain is running solid with -220bb/100, lolol.
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09-17-2009 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by shparoga
guess u can't read well so lemme help ya: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=15
I stand corrected. If the result was positive then it was a brilliant play.
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09-17-2009 , 07:19 PM
One time, I misclick shoved K3o UTG for 100bb, and got called by AA. But board ran out 33782 and I won! So now I always make this play.
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09-17-2009 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shparoga
guess u can't read well so lemme help ya: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=15
Wow, you are so wrong, I cant believe it.
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09-17-2009 , 07:57 PM
Lol, excellent! The world's thinnest value-bettor!
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