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10-22-2013 , 10:19 AM

papillon_

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Do people barrel this turn ..
Villain 24/19/0 - 21 hands. no reads

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #20131141

BTN: $4.84 (96.8 bb)
SB: $12.16 (243.2 bb)
Hero (BB): $7.49 (149.8 bb)
UTG: $5.26 (105.2 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.23 (104.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.02) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.22) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.05, CO calls $1.05

River: ($4.32) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.05, Hero folds

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10-22-2013 , 10:23 AM

Deeepz

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I'd barrel it to get rid of 77-99 / floats with Ad, but I'd go a bit bigger

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10-22-2013 , 10:23 AM

PantherXYZ

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prob not a great board to cbet, also not a great turn to barrel, you face reverse domination a lot and have basically no FE, river is fine since he probably has TP at this point and isnt folding

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10-22-2013 , 10:26 AM

papillon_

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Originally Posted by PantherXYZ

prob not a great board to cbet, also not a great turn to barrel, you face reverse domination a lot and have basically no FE, river is fine since he probably has TP at this point and isnt folding

Can i ask why its not a great board to cbet?

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10-22-2013 , 12:04 PM

Dunna100

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Originally Posted by papillon_

Can i ask why its not a great board to cbet?

What hands do you think fold that you are not already ahead of?

Fwiw I wouldn't bet flop without the Ad or Kd at least. Def not barrelling turn as we have very few hands that just improved, especially as we have no reads that villain floats or will fold to aggression etc

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10-22-2013 , 01:46 PM

papillon_

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Originally Posted by Dunna100

any pocket pair below JJ? AK/AQ, Like you said we have no reads on villain so we don't know how wide his calling range is.

Even with the added equity? Also likelyhood of floating one street?

What do you mean when you say "we have very few hands that just improved"? . if you are talking about scare cards, would you barrel a Q?

Very interested on flop comments though, you are essentially telling villain you give up on pot vs a potentially wide range?

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10-22-2013 , 02:04 PM

Dunna100

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Depending on how wide villain likes to call 3bets IP:

Board: Jd 5h 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.985% 37.06% 03.93% 41455 4395.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 59.015% 55.09% 03.93% 61625 4395.00 { 66+, A9s+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AJo+, KQo }

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4,708 games 0.001 secs 4,708,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 5h 6d Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 41.366% 37.26% 04.11% 1754 193.50 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 58.634% 54.52% 04.11% 2567 193.50 { 66+, A9s+, KJs+, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s, 87s, 76s, AJo+, KQo }

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10-22-2013 , 02:55 PM

papillon_

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Originally Posted by Dunna100

that's very interesting guess the J threw me off a little. However our range is high pp's also, so our perceived range makes this a bit better?

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10-22-2013 , 03:16 PM

PantherXYZ

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we dont have much fold equity

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10-22-2013 , 05:40 PM

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Reemix

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Originally Posted by PantherXYZ

you face reverse domination a lot

what's that?

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10-22-2013 , 07:49 PM

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PantherXYZ

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he has your outs covered, like say he has AJ, your ace isnt live, or KJ, your K isnt live etc and you can end up losing a bunch of money because of it if you're not careful

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