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04-29-2008 , 04:33 PM
It was like the third hand vs the villain.
He played like 30 hands later, finishing 64/14/4.

I played a hand like that some days ago, when I had AQ in a flop AAJ, I shoved and lost to JJ. That could be the reason that I played soooo passive in this hand. Thinking now, I shouldve lead flop for $2.50.. Anyway, vs an unknown, would it be a call on the turn? Im beaten by 55 and KJ (KK?), worth a call?

Thanks.

Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

Hero (UTG): $26.60
MP: $50.95
CO: $27.18
BTN: $9.73
SB: $4.00
BB: $39.43

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with J A
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 5 J J (3 players)
BB bets $2, Hero calls $2, BTN folds

Turn: ($7.10) K (2 players)
BB bets $31, Hero folds

Last edited by Casatti; 04-29-2008 at 04:45 PM.
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04-29-2008 , 04:39 PM
Pre flop/flop is fine.

Turn, i never ever fold, just never. WE HAVE TRIPS!!!!
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04-29-2008 , 05:04 PM
I don't mind popping this flop
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04-29-2008 , 05:14 PM
You shouldn't allow getting beaten in a similar hand to affect your judgement - you have the best hand here so often that you shouldn't hesitate to put your stack in.
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04-29-2008 , 05:21 PM
lame.
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04-29-2008 , 05:34 PM
Folding the turn here is a very big mistake b/c you basically have the nuts vs his range. You can raise flop but it is not mandatory.
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04-29-2008 , 05:56 PM
Yeah, I was thinking in the shower.

When I played the AQ, it was a 3bet pot vs a 12/8 player. I could be behind AK, not only JJ. In this hand, I was just behind 55 on flop, I had the top kicker.

And yes, I know, results shouldnt affect my decisions...
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04-29-2008 , 07:07 PM
Lessee. We beat QJ/TJ/J9, all pocket pairs except for 55 (and KK which would have popped you preflop). We lose to KJ/55/KK. Definitely call the turn.
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04-29-2008 , 07:17 PM
huhahahahahaa
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04-29-2008 , 07:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boolean
Lessee. We beat QJ/TJ/J9, all pocket pairs except for 55 (and KK which would have popped you preflop). We lose to KJ/55/KK. Definitely snap call the turn.
+1
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04-29-2008 , 11:43 PM
Everybody laughs, etc. But in the same situation, I lost to JJ... Since I folded, everyone say: "LOLOLOL", when I lost, everybody said: "OBV A FOLD!".

I was losing to AK and JJ (3bet pot), here im losing to 55 and KJ (regular raise).

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...86#post3570986
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04-30-2008 , 01:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boolean
Lessee. We beat QJ/TJ/J9, all pocket pairs except for 55 (and KK which would have popped you preflop). We lose to KJ/55/KK. Definitely call the turn.
+2

Not to mention that not a lot of people are betting 4x pot on the turn with a boat.
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04-30-2008 , 01:51 AM
Very unlikely he's got KJ, he'd check the turn and wait for you to bet.
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04-30-2008 , 06:30 AM
Yeah there's no way I'm ever folding here. Ever.
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04-30-2008 , 07:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casatti
Everybody laughs, etc. But in the same situation, I lost to JJ... Since I folded, everyone say: "LOLOLOL", when I lost, everybody said: "OBV A FOLD!".

I was losing to AK and JJ (3bet pot), here im losing to 55 and KJ (regular raise).

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...86#post3570986
Casatti, these are not similar situations.

AQo hand you mentioned:
- 3bet pot
- villain is a nit
==> his range is pretty narrow and the board hits his range hard.

This hand:
- raised pot
- villain is unknown
==> his range is much wider and includes a lot of hands you beat.

Sure, villain might have 55 or KJ, its a cooler then - but he will play any hand from J8 to QT the same way.
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