AJ SB, dangerous river, call/fold?
05-08-2014
, 09:37 AM
Villain: 50/5 over 50 hands.
I just hero called this river, but was I wrong?
I reckoned he can have a lot of Ax in his range over valuating it (like me :P)
since his range is wide, especially in BB like this.
I just hero called this river, but was I wrong?
I reckoned he can have a lot of Ax in his range over valuating it (like me :P)
since his range is wide, especially in BB like this.
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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UTG+2: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
MP1: $2.18 (43.6 bb)
MP2: $2.35 (47 bb)
MP3: $7.59 (151.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
BB: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
UTG+1: $2.10 (42 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J
A
7 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.30) Q
A 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20
Turn: ($0.70) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50
River: ($1.70) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $1.17 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.07
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UTG+2: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
MP1: $2.18 (43.6 bb)
MP2: $2.35 (47 bb)
MP3: $7.59 (151.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
BB: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
UTG+1: $2.10 (42 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J
A7 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.30) Q
A 8 (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20
Turn: ($0.70) 8
(2 players)Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50
River: ($1.70) Q
(2 players)Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $1.17 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.07
05-08-2014
, 10:04 AM
Quote:
Villain: 50/5 over 50 hands.
I just hero called this river, but was I wrong?
I reckoned he can have a lot of Ax in his range over valuating it (like me :P)
since his range is wide, especially in BB like this.
I just hero called this river, but was I wrong?
I reckoned he can have a lot of Ax in his range over valuating it (like me :P)
since his range is wide, especially in BB like this.
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26696351
UTG+2: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
MP1: $2.18 (43.6 bb)
MP2: $2.35 (47 bb)
MP3: $7.59 (151.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
BB: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
UTG+1: $2.10 (42 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
7 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.30) Q A 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20
Turn: ($0.70) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50
River: ($1.70) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $1.17 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.07
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #26696351
UTG+2: $6.06 (121.2 bb)
MP1: $2.18 (43.6 bb)
MP2: $2.35 (47 bb)
MP3: $7.59 (151.8 bb)
CO: $5 (100 bb)
BTN: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $5 (100 bb)
BB: $2.02 (40.4 bb)
UTG+1: $2.10 (42 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J
A7 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.30) Q
A 8 (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20
Turn: ($0.70) 8
(2 players)Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50
River: ($1.70) Q
(2 players)Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $1.17 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.07
05-08-2014
, 10:15 AM
PF/F/T looks standard yes.
R: i think both plays as:
-check/call - there missed draws, and next Qx maybe get idea from fish he bluf there
-bet its correct - fish have in range a lot of Ax and worse hand, so go to 3 streets of value.
i think its on you what option you choose
edit: yes, as played its easy fold
R: i think both plays as:
-check/call - there missed draws, and next Qx maybe get idea from fish he bluf there
-bet its correct - fish have in range a lot of Ax and worse hand, so go to 3 streets of value.
i think its on you what option you choose
edit: yes, as played its easy fold
05-08-2014
, 10:30 AM
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The question is and a very difficult one if I might add -How do we know if V has Ax here or Qx?
Qx hands is far less, because two Qx its already on board. And preflop he propably do not call all Qx as Q2o etc, but rather call all Ax, like A2o if you understand.
Therefore it isnt 50:50.-check-call have advantage of: you can get extra value from hands what missed draws, which you dont get when you bet.
but dissadvantegs of check-call is: he propably do not bet there, his A2-AT imo. But when you bet then he rather call this hand
I hope you understand me
05-08-2014
, 12:52 PM
Isn't one Ace on the board and one in our hand? That makes it the same as with Q. We've seen two Queens and two Aces, no?
True but I don't think it does have much affect here.
And we get extra value because they would bluff bet, or?
I do
05-08-2014
, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Davson View Post
komb
Qx hands is far less, because two Qx its already on board.
komb
Qx hands is far less, because two Qx its already on board.
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Isn't one Ace on the board and one in our hand? That makes it the same as with Q. We've seen two Queens and two Aces, no?
I did not realize, think you are right. But still im pretty sure more combination has in range Ax, because preflop do not call all weak Qx as i said. Put his range to pokerstove/equilab etc. with comboremoval effect and can look self to result
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And we get extra value because they would bluff bet, or?