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12-31-2011 , 12:48 PM
What do you think about this move/line?
Villian1: Kimabli => Maniac
Villian2: BornAsFish => it was his first hand on the table - so he was unknown

$0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
PKR
6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG BornAsFish ($25)
UTG+1 acy87 ($6.67)
CO Romchesko ($28.41)
BTN Hero ($50.02)
SB bighe ($4.65)
BB kimbali ($23.38)

Pre-Flop: ($0.60, 6 players) Hero is BTN A K
[BornAsFish posts $0.25]
BornAsFish raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, 1 fold, kimbali raises to $3.50, BornAsFish calls $2.65, taras calls $2.65

Flop: 9 4 8 ($10.60, 3 players)
kimbali goes all-in $19.88, BornAsFish goes all-in $21.50, Hero calls $21.50

Turn: J ($73.48, 3 players, 2 all-in)

River: 8 ($73.48, 3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $73.48


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Last edited by RomanT; 12-31-2011 at 01:13 PM.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
12-31-2011 , 01:01 PM
3b pre for value every single time! his range is any2 and you do good against any2

if i would flat and i would never flat, but if i do :-), i would ship it in pre. Especially if kimbali is a maniac, he has such a wide range here, that you love to win the pot right now or see all 5 cards...

flop, i mean.. what can u do? call it off and win the flip?
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
12-31-2011 , 01:02 PM
dont post results.

as played see above...never folding.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
12-31-2011 , 01:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cosmic Baby
dont post results.

as played see above...never folding.

Sry, ....
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
12-31-2011 , 05:52 PM
3b pre, as played repop the squeezer and get it in there is tons of dead money in the pot. on the flop you have too much equity not to call here with the NFD and overs.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 12:14 AM
Actually I dont mind flating pre sometimes because this is PKR and mostly likely on this table all 3bettign is going to acheive is get you into a huge pot 4/5 way. there is very little chanc of u having nay fold equity pre flop or getting it Heads up on this table.

Once its squeezed though just ship pre. OTF its a n eay call getting 3:1
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 06:10 AM
With the maniac behind, I like the flat pre, but when he squeezes, you have to come back over the top and get the money in pre if you can.

As played, on the flop, easy call, you're getting more than the right price to draw to your flush.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 08:59 AM
I would backraise-shove preflop.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 10:11 AM
Don't mind the flat pre but would 4bet the maniac. As played flop is fine.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by UKGrinderUK
Actually I dont mind flating pre sometimes because this is PKR and mostly likely on this table all 3bettign is going to acheive is get you into a huge pot 4/5 way. there is very little chanc of u having nay fold equity pre flop or getting it Heads up on this table.

Once its squeezed though just ship pre. OTF its a n eay call getting 3:1
This is exactly why hero should have 3bet or 4bet shoved. AKs way ahead of their range. Otf call ldo.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 12:48 PM
The only thing different you could have done differently was 3-bet pre, given it was the guy's first hand and he also posted.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 01:43 PM
tbh, without reads on UTG i like flatting pre IP (it is not that getting 4betted by an UTG open is that great with AK tbh...). also having a maniac behind is a plus.
backraise preflop smiling like a tard and feeling like a genius.... such a sweet spot!
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 02:56 PM
I do the backraise shove play sometimes against nit opens with AK when fish/maniacs squeeze and the nit flats (almost all nits would 4bet anything that beats us).

It's nice, cause the fish basically told us the nit doesn't have aces or kings, and we thank him by shoving.
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote
01-01-2012 , 03:11 PM
Calling PF is OK sometimes (although I prefer this only UTG+1 vs the UTG raiser)
Definately have to 4bet/allin once 3bet

You are roughly 33% on the flop assuming you never have good overcards but they can easily have KK/QQ/JJ etc here so easy call
AcKc - 3-way-pot, NL25, SH Quote

      
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