While in the hand I thought about betting smaller on the turn and plans on bet-folding the turn. Usually a flat on the flop and raise on the turn is super strong. Is there a reason to ever fold this? or just a cooler

villain stats is 30/16 and never 3 bets after 100 hands

I wouldn't bother with spoilers. Effects advice from people that read it and then give advice with their thoughts coloured by the result.

I'd have made your pre-flop raise $3 first of all.

As played: The raise all in is not good on the turn. For me realistically the only hand he does this with that you are beating is AK. You got blocker to spade draw, so it's not a semi-bluff with a draw.

Maybe others can come up with hands he does this with that you are beating, but honestly given what turn raises often indicate I'd consider folding even with 3:1 pot odds. Just because of the fact I can't see what he can have that I beat.

ya i should take the spoiler off. just copied the hand from holdem manager.

would you have bet less on the turn? which gives me more room to bet fold. I do agree its hard to come up with a hand that I beat (maybe AK) but after betting 7.50$ on the turn and getting 3:1 to call his stack I am not sure if its profitable to fold this. It IS a 3-bet pot and people show up with random hands sometimes.

Having said that would 6$ into 12.60$ be a better bet? and folding to a shove?

I am just trying to find a way to get away from these type of hands, because overpair runs into sets quite often in zoom, so it's a decision I'm going to make repeatedly on a frequent basis. I have a good idea when I am up against a set, but still for effective stacks of playing 100bb its still sometimes hard for me to let it go. but is it really profitable to be folding these in 3bet pots to raises on the flop/ turn in the long run?

Wrong forum mate.

why wrong forum? im asking how to play this hand

Yeah he is right about wrong forum thread, as really this should be in full ring micro, but...

As to bet sizing. I think a lot of people have been using a 50% pot bet when in 3bet pot. If your aim is to have a shove sized left at river then don't need to go 75% etc. If wanting to get it in at turn, then sure.

I agree on some boards folding is bad with those odds, and some may well say even here too. But if the board is pretty dry and it is really hard to put him on a hand you beat maybe saving nearly half your stack is not totally bad. I mean how often do we think he will have KQ-AK or say QQ and an outside chance of AJ here? You might be right, but would depend on player for me. I can't see a good player shoving worse than AK there.

yeah it makes sense. I just need to learn to trust my guts when I feel like I am behind. and generally when im ahead I would know, but when im behind i have a bad feeling. so ya its just discipline fold.

and i like the 50% bet for river shove. thanks. and okay sorry for the wrong forum post ^^ dont' really post much

Obviously can't ever fold turn with the odds you're getting.

Your sizing is the main problem though. Also, post in full ring forum to get better advice. 6max in a 3bpot you should basically never be folding this unless you have some super sick reads, but it might be different in nitring.

ty banana man. yea i totally agree with you. Ya i am posting on the wrong section sorry. and trust me I dont lay this down most of the time but I think there are times when you can really feel like my hand is not good 25% of the time, and this is one of them, given the villain's stat and full ring is nittier.

Wrong forum. Post in full ring forum, this is 6 max.
Bigger pre, I would make it 3,25.
Now you are actually giving him odds to setmine especially if you have a 3 betting range that is tight and value heavy as I suppose is the case in 25NL nitring when you are 3 betting an early position raise.

bigger pre $3
fold turn AP
he prob has a set or KJs

any way i would have made it close to pot OTF and over bet jam the turn so.... same result