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AA facing turn shove, drawy board AA facing turn shove, drawy board

02-09-2009 , 12:55 PM
My image is pretty taggy maybe i've played one hand prior to this, pretty new at the table, maybe only 10 hands or so. Stats on villain are like 21/11/1.2 over 113 hands. At the time I think I had 10 hands on him and he was like 70/10/~ so maybe that influenced my read a little even though it shouldn't have.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($6.90)
CO ($38.95)
Button ($19.35)
SB ($47.10)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
2 folds, CO checks, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.25) 10, Q, 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.75, SB calls $2.75

Turn: ($8.75) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50, SB raises to $42.85 (All-In), Hero ????

At this point I figured I was beaten but am i too committed at this point? Can he put me on aces? Would KJ play this way? 10J? Or is this a case of Baluga theorem?
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02-09-2009 , 01:01 PM
hmmm, I think i'll fold here. I think yr beat here most of the time, less chance of having AJ, cuz u already have 2 aces, but i think yr beat here most of the time, he could be doing this is KJ too as he have OESD odds on flop and turn. well, as his stats he seems like a weak tight, and I think yr set mined here or 2 paired more of the time, and u only have 4 outs if he had a straight.
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02-09-2009 , 01:10 PM
so this is an easy lay down with aa?
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02-09-2009 , 01:12 PM
If you're up against a straight, you only have three outs since he needs a jack, and a lot of the time it will be only for a split versus AJ, although 9J is certainly a possibility. You still have a lot of your stack left when he raises and you need to be ~30% to be be breakeven versus his range, and I don't think you will be.

Last edited by Dudd; 02-09-2009 at 01:21 PM.
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02-09-2009 , 01:15 PM
Easy fold imo, can't see him doing this with a single hand you beat and the board is not any good for bluffing the pfr with air.
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02-09-2009 , 01:15 PM
This is great convo, i've been LOSING money with AA so i made it a point to post a few AA hands today. Speaking of which, any idea why my other AA hand got locked? Am I only supposed to post one hand per day?
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02-09-2009 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nas432
This is great convo, i've been LOSING money with AA so i made it a point to post a few AA hands today. Speaking of which, any idea why my other AA hand got locked? Am I only supposed to post one hand per day?
I have no idea and had just written out some thoughts on it that I was hoping would be helpful, no idea at all why it got locked becuase it was a unl hand and was a somewhat interesting hand in the action that took place.
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02-09-2009 , 01:20 PM
feels like a KQ here
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02-09-2009 , 01:20 PM
could you pm me those thoughts? like i said ive been having some real trouble with AA hands and would love to hear what you have to say about it.
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02-09-2009 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nas432
could you pm me those thoughts? like i said ive been having some real trouble with AA hands and would love to hear what you have to say about it.
they are in that thread, I got the post in before lock
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02-09-2009 , 01:28 PM
folddd
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02-09-2009 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by thrasher789
they are in that thread, I got the post in before lock
Referencing your advice to call, should i just shove the rest in? He has like 3-4 bucks left behind at this point.
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02-09-2009 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nas432
Referencing your advice to call, should i just shove the rest in? He has like 3-4 bucks left behind at this point.
Definatly not becuase he's going to be inclined to fold all worse and snap call all his straights. I don't think there is any way to play that river but a call becuase shove should theoretically only be called by better. Pretty much everything about the hand makes no sense from his side and I just want to get it to showdown now and see why he played it so whack.
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02-09-2009 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thrasher789
Definatly not becuase he's going to be inclined to fold all worse and snap call all his straights. I don't think there is any way to play that river but a call becuase shove should theoretically only be called by better. Pretty much everything about the hand makes no sense from his side and I just want to get it to showdown now and see why he played it so whack.
He actually had the low end (56) of the straight, which makes some sense. He was vulnerable to 10J... but like, one combo of hands beats him so pretty awful on his part. Should I have just checked behind on the river isntead of that thin 3 dollar value bet? This is really inconvenient to have that thread locked lol.
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