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99  set on  9 8 7 6 99  set on  9 8 7 6

02-19-2014 , 04:58 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.08/$0.16 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #23813361

    Hero (UTG): $16.24 (101.5 bb)
    MP: $18.87 (117.9 bb)
    CO: $16 (100 bb)
    BTN: $8.19 (51.2 bb)
    SB: $66.50 (415.6 bb)
    BB: $17.16 (107.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9 9
    Hero raises to $0.48, MP calls $0.48, CO folds, BTN calls $0.48, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.32

    Flop: ($2.40) 9 7 8 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.76, MP calls $1.76, 3 folds

    Turn: ($5.92) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $1.44, Hero calls $1.44

    River: ($8.80) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP bets $15.19 and is all-in, Hero folds




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    99  set on  9 8 7 6 Quote
    02-19-2014 , 05:05 PM
    Fina obviously.
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    02-19-2014 , 05:16 PM
    Looks standard

    nh by villain. I like his bet size ott, you could do that with total air and what else can you do but show your hand by calling, ****ting bricks for the 4-straight.

    Remember this hand for when you are in the same spot as PFR caller
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    02-19-2014 , 05:22 PM
    The flop is 5 way, I think we could bet a bit more, around $2,20.
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    02-19-2014 , 05:50 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
    Looks standard

    nh by villain. I like his bet size ott, you could do that with total air and what else can you do but show your hand by calling, ****ting bricks for the 4-straight.

    Remember this hand for when you are in the same spot as PFR caller
    ? If you had Tx you shouldn't be raising anyway.
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    02-19-2014 , 05:52 PM
    Villain did not have good betsizing whatsoever. His sizing is extremely bad
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    02-19-2014 , 06:48 PM
    Bet the turn yourself... As played snapcall.
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    02-19-2014 , 06:50 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EC2200
    Bet the turn yourself... As played snapcall.
    EC2200,

    Lol
    99  set on  9 8 7 6 Quote
    02-19-2014 , 06:52 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TheKingofDiamonds
    EC2200,

    Lol
    Okay don't and leave a stack you could of had most of the time on the table.
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    02-19-2014 , 07:02 PM
    Ehh, don't know his stats, but would he have re-raised TT on that flop? And is v loose enough to be getting in with 55/AT in these spots?

    I'd have bet the turn expecting a raise if he's got the straight, jam the river if he just flats, but they say I'm a bit of a cannon.
    99  set on  9 8 7 6 Quote
    02-19-2014 , 07:08 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thenutsareJacks
    Ehh, don't know his stats, but would he have re-raised TT on that flop? And is v loose enough to be getting in with 55/AT in these spots?

    I'd have bet the turn expecting a raise if he's got the straight, jam the river if he just flats, but they say I'm a bit of a cannon.
    But IP loads of people are going to play Tx passively. What would villain gain out of raising except to fold out anything but a straight?

    Better for him to flat and let you keep bluffing.
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    02-19-2014 , 08:01 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FS14
    But IP loads of people are going to play Tx passively. What would villain gain out of raising except to fold out anything but a straight?

    Better for him to flat and let you keep bluffing.
    This is true but then why bet small when you make your hand and checked too AND then overbet shove the river when you think your opponent can't call with much. There are way too many bluffs and overplayed hands in his range played this way to fold top set here. I would say he has 70% bluffs and overplayed but worse hands on the river playing this way and around 30% nuts.
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    02-19-2014 , 09:35 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EC2200
    This is true but then why bet small when you make your hand and checked too AND then overbet shove the river when you think your opponent can't call with much. There are way too many bluffs and overplayed hands in his range played this way to fold top set here. I would say he has 70% bluffs and overplayed but worse hands on the river playing this way and around 30% nuts.
    MP called the PFR on the flop in a coordinated 5 way pot. I think it's fair to say he probably has something. Tx is a massive part of his range.

    And while I can't speak for 16nl, at 4nl the overbet river shove is almost always a monster hand. But even if the overbet shove is often a bluff at 16nl, I don't think it's likely to be in this case.

    I was just saying that 'expecting a raise if he has the straight' probably doesn't make for profitable poker if you're OOP. I'd certainly play Tx passively here if you bet into me on the turn.
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    02-19-2014 , 11:14 PM
    Bet turn, fold river.
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    02-20-2014 , 04:17 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VIVEK15
    Villain did not have good betsizing whatsoever. His sizing is extremely bad
    Gotta admit that the small turn bet puts anyone without str8 in an awkward spot and if you call you basically pave the way to a river shove for villain that you cannot call.

    Not standard betsizes aren't necessarily bad.
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    02-20-2014 , 10:58 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gabethebabe
    Gotta admit that the small turn bet puts anyone without str8 in an awkward spot and if you call you basically pave the way to a river shove for villain that you cannot call.

    Not standard betsizes aren't necessarily bad.
    With a set ott u get a free river card in hope of a boat.

    But if u bet turn bigger the set gets worse odds, still even against 3/4 pot bet ott u can safely call with 13 clean outs.

    The river overbet is never getting called by anything worse than Tx. So u get no value at all by a set which always fold.

    If bluffing river u risk alot to win the pot. But even so we will have Tx otr a decent amount anyway for the overbet to not pay out.

    The line is truly useless as it gets no value whatsoever and when trying to bluff u risk alot to win a little (and also give us very clear decision to call turn when we basicly get a free river)

    All this and not to mention the fact that villain will never be able to balance this kind of ******ed betsizing makes up for villains line to suck.
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    02-20-2014 , 11:08 AM
    bet flop $2.2

    turn and river are fine
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