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11-13-2019 , 04:03 AM

j1mathman

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Yatahay Network - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.9 BB
SB: 165.3 BB
Hero (BB): 270.7 BB
UTG: 97.7 BB
MP: 217.7 BB
CO: 98.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 9

Hero checks, CO bets 3.2 BB, Hero calls 3.2 BB

Turn: (12.9 BB, 2 players) A

Hero checks, CO checks

River: (12.9 BB, 2 players) 5

Hero checks, CO bets 3.2 BB, Hero calls 3.2 BB

-EDIT: not a 3bp my mistake here
-Linecheck me?
-I know I am getting a very good price on the river for a call, and I have the King of hearts to block the nut flush. Is this a call? I was looking for feedback because as I start to track my fold to flop bet my number there is low and I need to fold more

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11-13-2019 , 04:37 AM

dubakkur2

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fold pre (offsuit 3gapper) esp with CO 3x open - I defend with KTo+

I will get lampooned here, still i will say it

river: Raise big!

esp after turn goes check-check on the A, with blockers to nfd, and the lame ass 1/4 pot bet from CO

edit:
CO is going for a thin value bet i guess. if cheap showdown he should have checked back - most likely u will be beat. don't let him.

put urself in his shoes
Even if he has a flush, since u block nfd, he has to at least time bank before calling with Q-high flush
Anything else, even if he had a Ax, u just check raised him on the river with 3 to the nut flush showing!

Last edited by dubakkur2; 11-13-2019 at 04:45 AM.

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11-13-2019 , 07:17 AM

j1mathman

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Originally Posted by dubakkur2

thanks for the suggestions
-i could think about my river range a little differently and work in agression with blockers like this.
-i think I was being stubborn thinking he can't have an Ace to beat me usually, and my hand was probably good to turn into a bluff candidate here

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11-13-2019 , 10:39 AM

andreicos

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Fold pre

AP it's fine, I'm not a fan of trying to get fish off a decent hand otr

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11-13-2019 , 10:57 AM

Iblis

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I don't mind raising river if I know that villain has a fold button.

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11-13-2019 , 04:41 PM

j1mathman

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Originally Posted by Iblis

I don't mind raising river if I know that villain has a fold button.

thats a good point too it's hard to represent if they don't know to find fold button

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11-13-2019 , 07:34 PM

ionutd

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fold pre, A9o/KTo/QTo/JTo are solid folds too vs 3x
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11-13-2019 , 10:47 PM

dubakkur2

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Originally Posted by ionutd

fold pre, A9o/KTo/QTo/JTo are solid folds too vs 3x
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preflop advisor says call KTo
Snowie training says what you say

this is so fcked up...i may have to manually compile the ranges and not rely on the preflop advisor

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11-13-2019 , 11:25 PM

ionutd

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Originally Posted by dubakkur2

preflop advisor says call KTo
Snowie training says what you say

this is so fcked up...i may have to manually compile the ranges and not rely on the preflop advisor

they are theoretically pot odds calls but right at the cusp, assuming you will not under realize oop, which is hard to do with hands that have a hard time x/calling barrels with a pair or finding opportunities to x/r flops. If I'm not mistaken, gto+ evaluates any suited king and most QXs to be higher ev on a 163 flop subset

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11-13-2019 , 11:31 PM

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dubakkur2

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Originally Posted by ionutd

i got what you are saying

my complaint is different
since preflop advisor is free, they have not bothered to be accurate

I have found several discrepancies between paid training ranges and free preflop advisor ranges

probably should tighten one level from what preflop advisor says

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11-13-2019 , 11:39 PM

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ionutd

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the ones that are different are pretty close I think, not a big deal, shouldn't make a big difference
it might be different rake structures or just the fact that the free version isn't updated regularly

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11-14-2019 , 12:09 AM

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AskZandar

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Use the preflop advisor as a general reference, and add/subtract the fringy hands that you're comfortable/uncomfortable playing.

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11-14-2019 , 12:38 AM

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fold pre

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