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8s8c IP on 7s9sJd 8s8c IP on 7s9sJd

10-28-2010 , 12:53 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $2.90
BB: $5.07
UTG: $4.03
Hero (CO): $8.11
BTN: $2.30

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with 8 8
UTG calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 1 fold, SB calls $0.23, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.60) 7 9 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.40) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1

River: ($3.40) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks


Should I check back on the flop, try to keep the pot small? Then if he checks again on the turn, make a 3/4 bet cse now there are 2 possible flushdraws?

Or should I bet on the flop to protect my 88 against a straight or flushdraw? And bet again on the turn and fold if he bet on the river 8 card?

Should I bet the pot on the flop and then just shove on the turn?


How am I supposed to play this hand?
8s8c IP on 7s9sJd Quote
10-28-2010 , 01:00 PM
Why did you bet on the flop?

(I am not being condescending in asking this, i want to know your thot process)
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10-28-2010 , 01:02 PM
check flop or turn, going for 2+ streets of value with 3rd pair usually doesnt get called by worse
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10-28-2010 , 01:09 PM
I bet the flop cse I didn't know what to do and being aggressive by betting just seemed better then checking. So he couldn't see a free card.
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10-28-2010 , 01:09 PM
you have a mediocre hand in a multiway pot. not enough value to bet with too much value to bluff. just check it down.
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10-28-2010 , 01:21 PM
Any info on villain? I cbet, check turn/river unimproved. Fold if he wants to put more money in. If villain doesn't like folding to cbets obv just check it back.
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10-28-2010 , 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikingkong
If villain doesn't like folding to cbets obv just check it back.
That would be a reason to bet.
8s8c IP on 7s9sJd Quote
10-28-2010 , 02:04 PM
Meh, maybe, but i don't want to get into a guessing game if he's always floating lot.

Last edited by vikingkong; 10-28-2010 at 02:17 PM.
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10-28-2010 , 02:07 PM
turn is too thin
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10-28-2010 , 02:15 PM
check turn... as played shove river
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10-28-2010 , 09:43 PM
again thx for replying

i'm reading and learning about poker and i'm starting to understand it better

My bet on the flop isn't good cse
- i'm not getting value of any worse hands
- i'm not getting better hands to fold
- i'm not likely going to pick up the pot by betting on this board

so check behind on the flop,

then on the turn, with 4d I can make a 3/4 bet trying to pick up the pot or getting value of any flushdraws or straightdraws

and on the river if he checks, I check back cse i'm not gonna get value out of any hand like KJ or AJ because its very unlikely he would have played it this way

If he bets on the river, he's bluffing with KQ or AQs or value betting with AT,KT or QT then I should try to make a decision based on my reads on him and the situation wether I should call or not
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10-28-2010 , 09:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2POKER2
again thx for replying

i'm reading and learning about poker and i'm starting to understand it better

My bet on the flop isn't good cse
- i'm not getting value of any worse hands
- i'm not getting better hands to fold
- i'm not likely going to pick up the pot by betting on this board

so check behind on the flop,

then on the turn, with 4d I can make a 3/4 bet trying to pick up the pot or getting value of any flushdraws or straightdraws

and on the river if he checks, I check back cse i'm not gonna get value out of any hand like KJ or AJ because its very unlikely he would have played it this way

If he bets on the river, he's bluffing with KQ or AQs or value betting with AT,KT or QT then I should try to make a decision based on my reads on him and the situation wether I should call or not
im not sure where you got any of that from... but its completely backwards... bet flop, check turn, bet river
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10-28-2010 , 10:19 PM
You should definitely check back turn, since hes so short but W T F @ river check!?!?
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10-29-2010 , 03:36 AM
so many call station...
his river check is so weak,and why u check on the river?
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10-29-2010 , 03:47 AM
i dont think this is a good flop cbet. most hands that are calling are 1pair and 1pair+draw type hands. the only hands that we beat are like 78 and AsTs type hands, and even these have a lot of equity against us.

i would just try to get to a cheap showdown from here. there aren't even a lot of good barrel cards, as he is calling any blank turn, and its likely that any Q, K, or A improves his hand.

there are better spots to fire off 1-2 streets with midpair. this board is way too scary against an SB flatting range.
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10-29-2010 , 03:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by h4zin
i dont think this is a good flop cbet.
+1. That's like textbook example of wet flop. Way too many hands that will b calling or even reraising here to cbet especially when you aren't even drawing totally dead most likely so getting check raised would be pretty damn annoying.
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10-29-2010 , 04:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by subs
im not sure where you got any of that from... but its completely backwards... bet flop, check turn, bet river
+1
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