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01-24-2012 , 02:44 PM

Menshen

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 430

villain is 29/17/1.5 after 25 hands

do you think betting the turn is ok??

[hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11689762

Hero (CO): $2.49 (124.5 bb)
BTN: $2.90 (145 bb)
SB: $5.41 (270.5 bb)
BB: $2.08 (104 bb)
UTG: $2.38 (119 bb)
MP: $1.19 (59.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7

UTG folds, MP calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.33) 3

(3 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $0.18, BTN calls $0.18, MP folds

Turn: ($0.69) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.42, BTN calls $0.42

River: ($1.53) T

(2 players)

Hero?? what to do OTR??

Last edited by Menshen; 01-24-2012 at 02:57 PM.

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01-24-2012 , 02:53 PM

bgomez89

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I kind of like it. He could possibly fold 99-TT and you're building a bigger pot which is good for you when you hit

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01-24-2012 , 05:21 PM

Menshen

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bump

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01-24-2012 , 05:29 PM

Queen6Suited

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check turn imo. Never played 2nl but don't seem him folding better or calling worse (barring a fd) OTT.
OTR stacksizes are awkward, we can't fold if we bet, but he has a lot of flushes in his range. I think an overshove might be best.

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01-24-2012 , 09:35 PM

gdon

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I think I like checking turn as well. Only hands that beat you are going to call and you want to keep some (although probably unlikely) PP in his range if you miss your draw. With an AF of 1.5 I think he's going to check behind a lot.

As for river, I'm kinda stuck. I'm not sure what flushes hes doing this with AQcc? AJcc? Is he floating w/ QJcc?
I'm only really worried about TT, 33, maybe 88 (seems unlikely though).

I'm still a newbie so heed my advice with caution I guess

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01-24-2012 , 11:28 PM

BobbyGooch

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Bet LDO. Go for a big sizing, about 1.2 since I don't expect him to fold ofter.

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01-24-2012 , 11:31 PM

PlayLikeRussian

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 2,136

Personally I would rather iso with like k7s or something like that and overlimp with 87s because kx hands just have so much more top pair value, interested to hear some opinions on this though

Bet river obviously

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01-25-2012 , 04:19 AM

Menshen

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 430

I SHOVE ON THE RIVER AND HE TURNED PP 88..

imo it was not the best play at all because he is not a fish, second i can beat only a smaller flush which is obviously not callin my shippin, i should value bet and if raised fold,

i did not noticed board paired but that's diff think

gl and t

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01-25-2012 , 04:47 AM

MaxVariance

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Originally Posted by PlayLikeRussian

I do it the same. Isolate with 87s is not a good idea, especially when you can expect other callers. Just limp behind and see a cheap flop.

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01-25-2012 , 07:32 AM

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stickit

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Originally Posted by MaxVariance

I do it the same. Isolate with 87s is not a good idea, especially when you can expect other callers. Just limp behind and see a cheap flop.

really? Limping is bad in 99% of situations.

Isolating a fish with 78s can be good depending on the player type, and the players left to act.

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01-25-2012 , 08:07 AM

#11

Dunna100

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OP we only have 25 hands on him so we cant say if he's a fish or not.

I think raising sc's can b fine but we need to flop well to continue or let it go.

Think fcbet is fine, but would def check turn and fold to raise.

If we get to river I'm prob check calling with flush as some crazies will bet their kings or pp's here that haven't made a boat. It's just unfortunate we're up against the the top of his range here

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01-25-2012 , 09:41 AM

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MaxVariance

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Originally Posted by stickit

really? Limping is bad in 99% of situations.

Isolating a fish with 78s can be good depending on the player type, and the players left to act.

Yes, really. Openlimping is bad in 99 % of situations. Limp behind in late position is not allways bad. To isolate a fish (MP seems to be one cause he is openlimping) I prefer K9s or stuff like that, cards with toppair-value. In such a spot I like to limp behind 87s, if BTN and blinds are not very aggressive.

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01-25-2012 , 09:51 AM

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MeFishcake

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I don't really like the bet on the turn. Nothing has changed in the villain's eyes, and imo 30/18/1.5 means that he's not folding many of these turns according the flop texture.

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