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02-20-2023 , 05:22 PM

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newguyhere

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Yeah so it's mixed.

I'd always rather call this hand over a hand like KQs/TT even though both are mixed. Not only do I unblock target hands I want to bluff OTR but I still have suckout potential against top of range.

The guy is betting less than 1/4 pot, I don't think flop is an important data point as it can go either way. The river is the important spot.

I thought it didn't matter if it was mixed if calling is -EV?

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02-20-2023 , 05:22 PM

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whats the threshold hand that we see him fold where we decide this is a good bluff? like if he has KQ or 99 with a club i dont think anyones opinion changes. and like i said earlier, if he folds JJ i think its amazing.

Yeah agreed. If he folds KQ/99 then we learn nothing. If he folds KK/QQ then we are onto something.

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02-20-2023 , 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by newguyhere

I thought it didn't matter if it was mixed if calling is -EV?

I'm assuming that's just a rounding error

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02-20-2023 , 05:26 PM

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Should the BB be betting really small on the turn with an Ace?

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02-20-2023 , 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Low stakes are for learning.

The whole making the highest EV play is actually counter productive to learning. You don't make any serious money at 100nl so I'd rather try to learn about a spot instead of doing some cookie cutter stuff like never having bluffs.

Interesting mentality. I don't entirely disagree, I just take a slightly different approach. In game, at any about any stake I play, I'm still looking to make the highest EV play and if that means never having bluffs or just range betting, I'll do it. However I still want to learn the GTO approach to a spot, but I do that in my off table work in the solver. 100NL may not be "live a a bougie life as a pro" money, but at least for me it's income supplementing fun money. But I guess the main difference between us is that you're playing in anonymous pools and I have several opponents with 10k+ hands on that I know exactly how to exploit.

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02-20-2023 , 08:04 PM

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I like it. Even though the pool as a whole is full of monkeys im guessing there are plenty of regs that fold QQ here.

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02-20-2023 , 08:23 PM

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AS for light 4bets pre from villain, those are kqs, maybe ats+ I dont expect suited connectors and pairs weaker than 99, maybe even tt+ only. I m preety sure in practice avg villain will be ax and big pp heavy than mid pair or mid broadway heavy, even if preflop charts saying otherwise, especially on anon, but in theory against good aggressive opponents it's proapbly good play, if it's not our villain i just expect to see just folded JJ-KK, so it's not like he have to bluffactch a lot

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